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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Requiring the user to jump through hoops is restrictive. Remember, the vast majority of people are not nearly as technically skilled as we.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The only hoop is one setting to enable third party app installs afaik, possibly also turning off play protect.

Idk at this point it's like saying that changing the TV channel is a "hoop" because it requires a button press.

Not defending Google either, every time I install an app from F-Droid it prompts me to "Turn on Play Protect" to "improve security" with an obligatory dark pattern to boot but honestly if someone can't navigate a simple dark pattern idk how they get dressed in the morning or know truth from fiction.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

know truth from fiction.

You jest, but...

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a far cry from a big, red button on the front that says "press to install apps." Navigating a settings menu is seriously advanced for the majority of users.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whenever you try to install an apk with sideloading disabled, Android will prompt you with a popup that will take you directly to the setting you need to toggle to allow sideloading.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now try explaining sideloading to grandma

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they're the sort of users who find such hoops restrictive, do you really want them installing shit willy-nilly?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Are you arguing for the walled gardens now?

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 1 points 1 week ago

For some people? Yeah.

I have cousins that can't be asked to click a link lest they be drawn off of the path of mainstream horseshit.

"Can't you just pay Apple more money? What's the problem?"

receives glare

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't seem like it, but users who don't know how to toggle a setting should be kept faaaar away from sideloading

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Now you are also arguing for walled gardens.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's their problem.

We didn't give up our freedom, they did.

If they want to be a stupid consumer, they shouldn't be surprised when they're treated like one.