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[–] MBech@feddit.dk 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My government 2FA can't work on those OSs. Could get a physical device that shows the code, but that's nowhere near as practical. Without that 2FA I can't pay online, check mail from the government, login to my bank, move my adress, change my phone plan. Everything is set up through the 2FA, which is convenient as fuck, and super safe, but requires either Apple or Android.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Government 2FA? Sounds dystopian 👀

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would it be dystopian? Governments provide services and financial aids that also require security and safe authentication of ID. Actually, identity rights protection is the main thing governments provide.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, if it’s for something related to your government ID then okay, but you made it sound like you had to use their thing on a lot of services

Like requiring something provided by the government for paying online is wild

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“People shop for groceries online with government vouchers”. Doesn't sound wild to me at all. It is the most basic possible social security program in the 21st century. There's a difference between government way is the only way, and government offers a way for those who can't otherwise access basic human need. 2FA and MFA is basic security, without any context it is not any more or less dystopian than a bank, a phone carrier or Google providing MFA.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here in Denmark we need the government 2FA to pay for our stuff online. It's an extra identity check on the credit card to make sure the card hasn't been stolen. We don't do government vouchers here, because we have a very good safetynet based on a salary from the government if we're jobless. Kinda like UBI, but you only get it if you don't have a job, so not entirely UBI. The rate isn't anything good, but it's enough to survive.

Our 2FA is used for by far most things. Like if I want to login on my phone carriers website, I'll use the 2FA. Need to check up on my taxes? 2FA. Sign legal documents? 2FA. The way it works is, I've chosen a username which I write on the website login page, no password is used here. Then I open the 2FA app, login, grant access. If I try to login to a website on anything else than my phone, I need to scan a QR code displayed on the website aswell. This way I only need to remember the password for the 2FA and my username. We haven't had any issues with security in this system in the 4,5 years it's been online.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago

It is the most basic possible social security program in the 21st century

Wtf? Health care is the most basic social security.

“People shop for groceries online with government vouchers”

You never mentionned this. But still, it makes you so much traceable. Doesn't feel really good, being said like that.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a pretty good system, if it's any interrest it's in Denmark.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

If you say so! I hope it's not as bad as it sounds haha

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Does the app check for strongest variany of Safetynet / Play Integrity?