They are both immigrants with US citizenship. Classifying people as "not real Americans" is the kind of thinking we should be moving away from. Otherwise I agree: both are sociopathic oligarchs with no loyalty or patriotism for America and see it mainly as theirs for the taking.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They AREN'T real Americans. Their "citizenship" was strictly a business decision to give them more access to the US government for their exploitation. They didn't come to America because they loved this country, they came here to steal from us. They are the foreign criminals that HitlerPig and the MAGA Traitors are always railing about.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Regardless of their intentions, they live here, work here, and most of their interests are here. You don't get disqualified from being American just because you're a massive piece of shit. Plenty of Americans are massive pieces of shit.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

If you are born here, you have a free pass to be an asshole, if that's what you choose. But not if you are from somewhere else. You don't get to come here to exploit America, and get a free pass because you paid a bunch of lawyers to buy your citizenship, and then use that privilege to mercilessly abuse the system for your own gain, at the expense of real Americans.

MAGA wants to kick out people it thinks are bad influences on America. That is a double-edged sword that cuts against them, too.