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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/64363784

The founder of the Telegram messaging app said on Sunday he had refused a request by a Western government, which he did not name but appeared to imply was France, to silence conservative voices in Romania ahead of a presidential election run-off there.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

MOSCOW - I don't think that's where the Telegram founder Pavel Durov resides, and that's not where Telegram resides.

~~So that alone tells us what this news article is worth, how objective and factual it is likely to be.~~ *

I fucking hate Telegram. Its encryption is weak, its servers completely opaque, Durov's loyalties unclear. A long time ago it did not require a phone number to register and from that time it gained a reputation of being truly anonymous and, yes, safe. Some even paint Durov as some sort of digital hero who's being pursued by "Western" governments. More Russian dis(torted)information propaganda.


* There's a Reuters article that says the same as this article. Even starting with MOSCOW, too, but never explaining how this article even comes from Moscow. I wonder how Reuter's gets this stuff (they must be starved for actionable information from Russia), but my guess is that for once it suits Russia to spread the truth because Durov already said the lies, so quoting him is technically the truth.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its encryption is weak, its servers completely opaque

Does this mean someone actually can do something to data submitted by me to telegram servers, or my encrypted chats? If that's so I'd like to know a concrete example or a workflow.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My phrasing was wrong; MTProto 1.0 was weak. 2.0 is apparently better. However:

because all communication, including plaintext and ciphertext, passes through Telegram servers, and because the server is responsible for choosing Diffie–Hellman parameters, the "server should not be considered as trusted."

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's different from what I asked. It's about the other users or hackers, not services. I already live under assumption that no server of any service can be trusted.

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