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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago (67 children)

Some of us live in countries that don't really have dangerous wild life and cats have been allowed outside for over 1000 years.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

cats have been allowed outside for over 1000 years

That's simply not true. There were never as many outdoor cats as there is today and cats used to have natural predators everywhere to keep environmental balance which is lost today. Keeping all of your pets indoors (or at least backyard) is the only ethically viable position.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Downvoted by people who don't like facts. There isn't a country in the world with a domestic cat population that wouldn't see a huge benefit to their native wildlife by keeping those pets inside or in a pet run. But people don't like the change or the effort of doing so, so they ignore this inconvenient fact.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Indeed, pet owners simply don't want to hear the truth which is incredibly irresponsible.

Even if you really must let your cat out there are things you can do like colorful collars with an attached bell which:

The BBScc reduced the number of birds brought home by 37% (probability of reduction of 88%). The number of mammals brought home was reduced by 54–62%, but only with the additional bell (probability of reduction of >99%)

https://zenodo.org/records/15210938

I've never seen a cat owner who cares enough to even do that when we have clear evidence this works. The naturalist argument of "oh they are local animals" is such an irresponsible cop out where they can't even bother to put a collar on to diminish the damage. It's inexcusable laziness, nothing else.

[–] Crazyblu@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Strap a collar so that your cat ends up crazy or hanged surely there wont be any animal cruelty after that right guys right ??

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I bring you evidence you bring me imaginary anecdotes. OK.

[–] Crazyblu@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

There will be no need of evidence when its hanged

[–] Crazyblu@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Btw i hope u wear a collar with a lil bell on it and u are tagged would be a shame to lose u..

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