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[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Yeah I always found the argument absurd as I live on a paved over rectangle with a few square feet of grass my cat likes to poop on while he hangs out with the local squirrels. He is far too lazy to hunt anything, he killed a mouse that was actually inside the house many many years ago but has been a pacifist since. He is 15 he literally wants to sit in the sun and do nothing.

Of course there are some cats who will hunt, and their owners should not allow that. But the blanket statements about environmental impacts, while they cool their house with AC, burn fossil fuels to heat food and go to work, order crap on Amazon...just lacks perspective.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As a cat owner who works in the animal industry, you're suffering from 'my personal experience is reality-itis'.

You can't 'not allow' your cat to hunt. The only chance you have is to keep it inside. Your old cat likely doesn't hunt outside but to think it killed a single mouse it's entire life, is delusional.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't understand people like you. Can you not accept that there are shades of gray, and exceptions to every rule? I'm simply arguing that not all cats MUST be kept indoors no ifs ands or buts. I concede that many cats, young ones in particular, will kill small animals. My (rescue) cat was an indoor cat for most of his 15 years and only when I moved from a major urban city apartment building to a slightly less-urban city single family house did I let him outside under controlled circumstances. I straight up know he isn't going around killing things. I didn't go out and BUY this cat, I'm not actively contributing to breeding or anything. I have an animal that deserves to enjoy his old age.

I should probably not engage with you people and just keep my truth to myself.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Your particular circumstances are why YOUR particular 15 year old cat is great hanging in his own yard. It is not an argument in general even that SOME cats ought to be outdoor because they are overwhelmingly get killed and kill out there.

Your argument is so inapplicable to almost anyone else that its like saying your former ax murderer friend is totally safe because he's taken up Buddhism and non-violence and is now mostly crippled.

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