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The Democratic Party’s propping up an obviously declining Joe Biden is one of the greatest political disasters in American history.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Once again. Best president of my lifetimes (comparison is based on actual presidents we had in office. Not ficticious ideal ones). No disaster here to me. kamala was fine mainly because she came out of that decent administration and biden did well partially from his experience in the obama admin (he knew republicans had 0 sincerity). Further kamala's vp was an awesome pick. Im sorry some idiots voted for trump and others did not vote. I remember all the complaints about gore but wow I still can't imagine what we would have been like without 911 and a stronger paris accord.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

I had the same view (he pulled out of the Afghanistan, he mostly ended drone strikes, passed Chips Act, passed extremely watered-down Build Back Better bill, passed The Inflation Reduction Act, dealt with COVID moderately okay, he lowered some drug prices under Medicare, he passed moderate gun control bill), until he decided to unconditionally support a genocide. That just made him another modern American president that is a war criminal under international law. But even ignoring that, what he achived was barely moving a needle for improving the life for the working class. He failed to deliver full Build Back Better bill, he failed to raise minimum wage, he failed to forgive student loan debt, he failed to negotiate prices for all drugs that US government buys, he failed to lower cost of basic goods. That's just what he tried and failed to do.

But the story wasn't even about it. He was a disaster because he was sick, senile old dude that could barely speak and the DNC and their political aparatus protected him at the any cost, including making his brand toxic in the upcoming elections.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He failed because Americans gave him the most razor thin majority and when it came time to support him more they stayed home or voted Republican.

It's amazing how everyone can blame one single party and not the millions of Americans who did fuck all.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Party is not entitled to votes just because and this attitude is shared by corporate Democrats in charge and is the reason Democrats will continue to lose and lose. Apart from the Trump cult members which is around 25-30% of the US population, the rest of the voters were people who knew Trump was bad (they might have underestimated it), but they wanted to avoid the existing status que and they knew Trump would be anything but status que.

Look at Biden popularity. When he was the most popular? When he delivered cash checks to people during stimulus package. Deliver for working people and they will deliver for you. Continue robbing people blind and supporting corporate overlords and people will continue to not deviler for you.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not disputing anything you've said, but the reality is also that the winner of pretty much every election at the state and federal level will be won by either the Democratic or Republican nominee. Fewer than 99% of state and federal legislative seats in the country are held by third party or independent (2 out of 535 federally are Independent, none are third party).

https://ballotpedia.org/Current_independent_and_minor_party_federal_and_state_officeholders

Both parties weaponize this, for sure. But the only message not voting sends to those in power is that your opinion doesn't matter and they don't have to waste any effort trying to win you over. One of the two will win whether you participate or not. And clearly, there is a real difference with real consequences as to which one it is.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm aware. 3rd parties are not viable in the US. I think the only way to change that is to encourage local already established leaders be it advocates, activists, reporters, teachers or other working class people with a fundamental core of values to run for political office under Democratic banner, but who are also willing to criticize and call out corporate slaves of the party. This upcoming election cycle there seems to be a lot of new new faces primaring useless corporate goons that are raising huge amounts of money with a message of working class first.

They're not entitled.

You and every other American are also not entitled to a decent life, as evidenced.

So do with that what you will. People want to be stupid then they'll continue getting their just desserts.

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