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[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not to mention all the changes had 0 effect on fraud. Those gangs quoted were post the Tory changes. And represent a tiny % of the budget. Way below the cost of implementing the 3rd party check system.

But the did have a huge effect on both the motivations and mental health of disabled.

While increasing the amount of negativity/discrimination experienced in public.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Benefit fraud has always been used as an excuse to kick genuine claimants off benefits, nobody in power believes they can actually reduce it to the point it saves significant money to be given to the majority who actually need it.

Its come back around as the long term sick numbers have risen so much post covid that the government is shitting the bed over paying for it.

They would rather punish people over claiming as a deterrent to everyone else rather than actually address funding it properly (tax the fucking rich) or providing actual support to the long term sick to get fit and back into work.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Raised rate post COVID may have some value as an argument.

If this nasty discriminatory attack opn all disabled. Had not started ion 2010 and included all that percieved raise in claimants.

Also note the times given for the raises all match when the UK government was found to be falsely rejecting PIP claimants. The governments claim in raised numbers matches with the start of court cases rejecting their outright denial of claimants.

2016 was the highest number of false rejection. And took a few years those cases to go through court. Being re-added to the claimants list just in time to create this claimed crisis.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its the continuation of that attack under Labour that has annoyed me the most, while you expect it from the Tories, and with an extended stay in power its just gotten worse. Labour should be doing a moratorium on old cases and settling rather than just letting DWP continue to play bad cop.

I am convinced that its motivated by the current and projected long term sick as much as anything as Labour are desperate to get the economy moving by doing anything but taxing the rich or starting the full reversal of Brexit.

Since Covid its about 850k people added to the long term sick from the last reliable source I checked: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/economic-update-inactivity-due-to-illness-reaches-record/

And that number is still rising. I don't doubt that the majority of those are genuine and have been failed by a lack of NHS funding to tackle the issue properly, and a continued refusal to do so. I also don't doubt that long term disabled claimants have been pulled into this new purge by Labour because some of the newer long term sick are under the same pot of money now.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Very much agreed.

Also, the claim that PIP changes are about getting disabled into work.

PIP and its predecessor are not income based benefits. The vast majority of claimants are working.

Labour trying to label the cost as related to unemployability is such evil propaganda. It is about equality. Allowing disabled people to interact with society in anything close to an equal manner.

PIP is payable to billionaires that have disability issues. The fact that few if any exist is a sign of how fucking far from equal society is for disability.

Labour is working to create a false negative view of disability and the cost difference of actually existi9ng in society with disabilities. It is pure discrimination.