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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 141 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (34 children)

I'm just gonna say it: Everything about everyone involved in this administration screams people who are hired for their loyalty, not their skillsets.

The theory that they used Uninterruptible Power Supplies to modify the vote, and that they had enough people involved to pull this off, yet everyone kept their mouth shut, is not the level of competency I have seen from anyone in Trump's orbit.

As someone with a background in tech, I find it hard to believe. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. They can make up all the stories about they want in their own heads, until there's some proof of it, it's just as bullshit as Trump's claims of election fraud.

If Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could have gained root-level access to the host tabulation environment—without ever modifying certified election software.

So yeah, we're gonna have to have a hell of a lot more to go on than "could have" here. Also I'm skeptical on the claim that Windows automatically trusts any connected UPS and skeptical about the "root level access" claim (including the fact that it is called administrator access on Windows, Windows doesn't have "root" accounts).

Part of the reason I'm skeptical on the root-level access claim regarding a UPS. If you could do this with any old UPS, this would make any and every UPS in existence a major attack vector to every computer and computer network in existence. I find it hard to believe that cybersecurity experts would have somehow missed this in the last 20 years that commercial level UPS's have been in use. That it was just somehow conveniently overlooked that you could override server administration with a UPS. I don't buy that.

EDIT: All this being said, I think a court case to reveal any evidence that is there is important. It's highly improbable but not impossible and so I hope the court case moves forward quickly.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've been listening to a great podcast series about Titanic. (This will come around, bear with me.)

One of the things mentioned in the latest episode is that it didn't take long for conspiracy theories to develop about the sinking, that it had to have been done on purpose. Because there are a lot of people who didn't want to believe the truth: that it was possible for the largest luxury liner ever built could go to the bottom of the north Atlantic in two and a half hours on its maiden voyage on accident.

The uncomfortable truth about this last election is that, yes, enough people willfully voted for fascism to put this administration in place. The United States is much further away from the ideal we'd all been led to believe it has strived to be, so far that it's clear that it's not even striving for that ideal anymore. That truth is so unconscionable to some people that accepting a conspiracy theory is more palatable.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That truth is so unconscionable to some people that accepting a conspiracy theory is more palatable.

It's really hurtful to the mind of a kind-hearted person. It says a lot of dark things about humanity in general that this nation was so easily steered into this. It's valid to want to reject it, but I'd rather live in the dark reality and face it than do like the MAGAts and retreat to the safety of fantasy and fiction that it just has to be a conspiracy to explain how so many people are so terrible. Nope, humans are really that fucked.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Much like the night sky, humanity is largely a dark thing, speckled with occasional bright spots.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Humanity is Banana Joe from the Amazing World of Gumball:

Banana Joe: Bobert, facts are like stars—

Anais: They're always in the sky, but you can't always see them.

Banana Joe: No, they're like shiny holes in the dark light of my ignorance, and I don't like 'em!

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s really hurtful to the mind of a kind-hearted person.

The messed up part is that the people who voted for this think they're doing good. There are a few moral monsters of course, but most of the people who participate in historic crimes think they're helping.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Agreed. There's enough true conspiracies, we don't need to make fake ones

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Not really an accident persay but rather a combination of hubris and bad choices made or of hubris.

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