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[โ€“] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People here screech about them, but PHEVs are great and instead of subsidizing one giant ass ev battery we could offer more incentives for PHEVs. But nobody wants to optimize for now vs the fancy no gas cars by 20xx slogan politicians want.

You get big BHP numbers, you still drive 98% of the time on electric, and just gas up for longer trips. The maintenance on them is also greatly exaggerated.

[โ€“] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

PHEV for certain situations is still the best choice, but its more a limitation of the charging infrastructure than anything else. In some countries this is not a quick problem to solve so PHEV has a use for quite some time.

PHEV was very much a stop gap when batteries were even more expensive, performed by third parties (so losing that profit margin as well) and production limited so they reduced the size of the battery to keep the car affordable. Long term they are a dead end outside of specialised use cases.

A lot of PHEV owners do not bother to charge regularly as the small battery needs daily charging.

They have higher engine wear due to the engine being used more aggressively when cold as battery was used for the start of the journey.

You are also carrying around an entire ev and an entire ice, with additional complexity to meld the two together. It's just not smart design, KISS after all.

I much prefer range extending engines like on the i3 that act as direct generators as a concept for properly remote travel. Although the tech is far far from perfect and advances in battery, such as these solid state batteries, look to make it superfluous.

https://electrek.co/2024/03/25/yet-another-study-shows-plug-in-hybrids-arent-as-clean-as-we-thought/