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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

LMAO, f keys, when I switched I instantly fell in love.

  • No more digging for keys
  • No more fumbling
  • Much easier to unlock with full hands
  • Really easy to leave the car running and lock it from the outside
  • The key can be ANYWHERE in the car e.g. gym bag

When it comes to cars, half the time I swear the complaints are just old car heads who just hate those "new fangled features". Like the need for "manual" transmissions because automatic sucks, automatic transmissions haven't sucked for a long while now. Initially it did, but it's quite refined now.

Fuck the subscriptions though, I want the "fancy electronic features" just sans subscriptions and data collection

[–] bob@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

My partners car has keyless and I hate it. Every time I get in the key falls out my pocket and ends up under the seat, or I throw it in some cubby hole and can never remember which one.

"Can you come closer to the car, it still won't let me in"

Then there's the time I dropped her off in the car, she left with the key but it still let me drive away. Good job I didn't pop into any shop on the way home.

[–] Turret3857 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There isnt a single car on the market where you get the fancy features without the data collection.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

New maybe, but it still needs to get that data out somehow, a little clippy clip to the internal antennas would probably do the trick lmao (as long as it's not with a subscription feature, that might need to periodically phone home)

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No "subscription feature" should exist.on a motor vehicle. The idea that they do is asinine.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think there might have been a misunderstanding, I'm not saying it should exist or that it's good, at all.

Just that you could still buy a new car and then sever the cellular antennas, then the collected data won't be able to actually leave the vehicle. But, doing so might break any subscription-based features, if present, because subscription means it'll need to phone home periodically

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but I am sure some of the new cars you can turn off the data collection. Not all, but also not most.

[–] Turret3857 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Clicked on the one with the cat thumbnail. No cat was present in the first few seconds of the video. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not the automatic transmission I hate. It's the electronic handbrake that disengaged itself and made me nearly rear end a parked car because I had the audacity to put it in gear, or the lane assist that wanted me to drive into a brick wall and then later on through a hedge. Also touchscreen for everything. Just give me buttons.

Luckily my actual car only needs the touchscreen for me to change to media instead of radio, then I have buttons on a stalk for it. The handbrake is manual and it has no lane assist either.

Automatics are just scary cus I've never driven one. I'm sure they are going to be fine when I am pushed to buy a new car.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Electric parking brake is one of those modern "conveniences" I really hate. I want a physical lever that directly actuates a brake. It should work even in a catastrophic failure (so should the steering and regular brakes, but it should be a separate system)

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great until the fob dies. Then your car turns into an art piece.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every keyless vehicle I've driven has had a failsafe, usually something along the lines of starting the car by pushing the start button with the top of the FOB and it'll temporarily be powered enough to read whatever security codes it needs

Some brands have a hidden manual key inside the FOB that you could use

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

My car has a spot to put the fob if the fob is dead, and it'll just read the dead fob and be fine.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Keyless is really something that once you daily drive it, you will miss it everytime you don't have it.

I am all for having project/summer cars which are cool in some particular way, but daily driver should be car that most easily transports you from place to another

If tech would be ready enough, I would be willing to go for 100% automation. If I could have magic egg were I just sit in and tell where to go, and by itself it just takes me there, that would be perfect.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That's the difference between people that have to drive and people that like to drive. I would love for most people to have reliable, comfortable, hands-off transportation so that they could get out of my way.