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[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It recovered from a massive asteroid hit and recovered from many mass extinction events that were worse than us. Will all the other species we have now be fine? Probably not but the planet and nature will eventually recover there will be some species that persist and a couple hundred million years later a new species will grow to reign the planet. We aren't that special

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are that special, in 4 billion years only one species has done what we have done. For better or worse. It's not certain conditions will be right for it to happen again

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No we really arent, an asteroid did more than we ever could in a shorter time frame even if we detonated every single nuke on the planet we wouldnt come close to that level of destruction and carbon release. The planet has recovered from far worse than humans. All you need is bacteria and another billion years and life will emerge again in the worst of scenarios. Not to mention life even started with worse conditions then we can create today. It's such human hubris to assume we are doing anything more but killing ourselves and the species we rely on for our dominance.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about sapiens not human caused extinctions.

eventually recover there will be some species that persist and a couple hundred million years later a new species will grow to reign the planet.

That is far from guaranteed

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about sapiens not human caused extinctions.

Yeah, we really aren't that special though lets be real here. We act like we are the only emotional animals, only animals who think, etc. There are plenty of examples with other species demonstrating similar phenomenon and if humans were out of the picture there is nothing that would prevent another species from evolving and becoming sapient like humans.

That is far from guaranteed

Nothing is guaranteed but none of the damage we are doing has the potential to do any more harm than the planet has endured in the past and shown to bounce back from remarkably well and creating new species, ecosystems etc. The only thing far from guaranteed is us actually destroying all life on the planet. So much has to go "right" for that to happen, whereas for life to continue the planet, nature just needs to evolve and continue as it has done numerous times in the past.

Listen, if you want to say we are destroying certain species, environments, etc. I'm not going to disagree with you. But the planet and life in general has bounced back from worse situations than any man made catastrophe can do at this point. To act like we are some special life that has the ability to destroy our planet the only species that can evolve to be "advanced" (if you call figuring out creative ways to slowly kill ourselves advanced lol) you are just demonstrating the human god complex fallacy thats lead to creation myths and tales of God's creating us in their image. We are nothing more than another animal on the planet, everything we create is a natural product of nature. What we deam unnatural compounds will eventually be a food source for some bacteria or mold like species down the line, just like wood. Whether we will be around for that future is the question realistically, not if it will happen.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 1 points 3 days ago

Which strawman are you flailing against? I havent said anything about human caused destruction, where are you getting that from?

We act like we are the only emotional animals, only animals who think, etc.

Who made that claim?

Listen, if you want to say we are destroying certain species, environments, etc.

??

if humans were out of the picture there is nothing that would prevent another species from evolving and becoming sapient like humans.

Of course not but there's nothing forcing it to happen either. Dinosaurs ruled the planet for far longer than mammals and they never got where we are

You say we aren't that special but show me one other species that has created a civilization like humans, I'll wait.