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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We just witnessed an internal party takeover in the Republican party. What dumbass thinks the same couldn't possibly happen in the Democratic party?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

David Hogg won a legitimate party election to become vice chair because he was popular and then was removed by tje DNC for having the wrong ideology.

They have shown us many times they will not allow themselves to change

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If people start voting in primaries that can change.

Am I optimistic that it will? No. But the problem is that people who want to see change aren't voting in primaries and then they complain that their choices suck.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't think voting in a DNC primary will result in the most popular candidate being the chosen candidate to run as president. I beleive the DNC will choose the winner before the primary starts like they have for decades.

I don't beleive a canidate hand picked by the DNC will create positive change

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Obama was an upset candidate. Hillary was the DNC choice in 08.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't Bernie Sanders lead in 2019 and dems decided to go with Biden for safety?

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you mean that democratic primary voters in subsequent states voted for Biden after Sanders had the early lead, yes.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, I think you're right. So it's the people that suck, not just the parties.

[–] tamman2000@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

At least the people currently voting in primaries suck. The solution is for more people who don't suck to start voting in primaries

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So it’s the people that suck, not just the parties.

Bingo.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Because we haven't put enough pressure on them yet.

Did you think this would end with David Hogg winning a vice chair position?

Gonna take more than that to change a party. But it's better than everyone splitting the vote for various 3rd parties that have absolutely no presence at all, whatsoever.

Let's see what happens with this NYC election. That's a bigger deal than David Hogg.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right. And trump didn't take over the rnc in one go. It takes constant pressure. Keep fighting.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

By his first election he absolutely owned the RNC

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not completely. McCain was blocking him.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

McCain is still alive?

I haven't seen him since he ran against Obama.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

I was talking about after Trump's 1st election. The rnc was about to repeal Obamacare (without a replacement) and McCain did his thumbs down before voting to not repeal it.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Exactly. We need to fix the entrenchment, and we can fix this stupid two party system.