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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats used to be the racist pro slavery party. Then it got captured and turned into Roosevelts New Deal Democrats, which were obviously to the left of the Republicans. Not perfect, but they really did a lot of good.

This can be repeated, but it takes a lot of work.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Honestly, the worst of it all started with Clinton. He was the first of the corpo Democrats, and was a response to 12 year of Reagan and Bush telling the world that Greed was good.

The 60s and 70s were full of Democrats who were on the side of the people, and not the corporations.

Sadly we need to rebuild the community driven fundraising that Democrats used to rely on, while also weaning off the corporate teat.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The Republican party was a party of radical abolitionists and it was captured by the capitalists. The Democratic party can likewise be changed to something it is not currently.

You can't convince me of what may be by talking about what is.

[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I see your point, however, the Democratic party is not fascist. It does provide a clear difference from the GOP. Wether we like it or not, USA is a two party system. We need to be practical here, not ideological, or we just go fascist forever.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago

"We're only living under fascism because not enough people voted for the party that did absolutely nothing to stop it"

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

…you didn't say fascist…

Maybe you’re not ready to hear this: Both sides are not the same.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago

I checked my calculator, and according to this "capitalist + imperialist = fascist". Imagine that.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not saying capitalism is the best form, but which economic form is better given human greed and tendency for corruption?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

We're not doing capitalism in the US anyway. You can argue it's state capitalism, but personally I don't see it. I'd say we're deep into full on monopolies and oligarchy. If you have enough money and you buy out it otherwise lock out competing business and create vertical integration, the government will subsidize your business, especially your payroll, and if you go bankrupt they will reward you with no taxes for life, or bail out money that you can 90% give yourself personally as a yearly bonus. None of that is capitalism, it doesn't fit that model. We're also letting corporations call themselves individuals with rights, which is absurd, and it's the argument for letting business openly bribe and sponsor politicians, on top of making it also legal to directly pay politicians to vote specific ways, as long as you pay them after the vote happens and not before. None of this fits the capitalist model. Monopolies are supposed to be illegal in capitalist models because it's known to break the model. Regulations are supposed to stop individual businesses from owning their own supply chain, distribution system, raw materials, manufacturing, all in one company. Because, again, it was always known this would break the model. We aren't capitalist. We're in an oligarchy. Might make rights, money is in charge, and there are only rules for the not owner class.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

We need to get involved at the primary level, not lament the choices we are left with when primary election turnout is hilariously low. I'd be surprised if the average voter even knows what a primary election is.

[–] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the democratic party, it's the US itself that is rotten. The dem are just another manifestation of the issue.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 16 hours ago

also like to point out that many of them are DINOs, and are republicans that wouldnt be electable otherwise in a GOP primary, so they have to put a democratic facade to just get elected.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 22 hours ago (32 children)

There's no way to win political power in the United States without the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

Socialists and progressives will always have an easier time infiltrating the neoliberal Democratic Party over the fascist Republican Party.

The longer the fascists are in power the harder it will be remove them from power because they will change the rules to maintain power.

The optimal strategy remains to vote for neoliberals when the alternative is fascists because that is how to create time for socialists and progressives to primary neoliberals in the Democratic Party and win general elections.

This meme is a continuation of the accelerationism we saw during the 2024 election. It supports the fascist cause by attempting to sabotage leftist's best strategy and thus is pro-fascist. The user is prone to self-sabotage as they publicly admitted to not voting for Harris in 2024.

If a fascist drinks at your bar and you don't throw them out it's a fascist bar. If a fascist meme ends up in your community and you don't throw it your a fascist community.

I am reporting this meme. And you all should too. I'm sick of self-described leftists backstabing me and every other minority group they pretend to care about because they're mad about the 2016 election. I'm a trans, atheist, Jew. I'm close enough to the death camps for my liking thanks. You don't have to like the Democrats, I don't, but we do need to vote for them.

I refuse to go quietly. I refuse to tolerate memes that shrug at my right to exist and throw fuel to the fire in the hopes that the fascists kill everyone faster. That's not a real political position. It's black pilled bullshit and it can fuck off.

Hope that helps people stop tolerating this bullshit going forward.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 16 hours ago

people also ignore local elections, which is where the gop gets thier base of power from. once they take over things like school boards, and such they can work thier way into higher positions.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I agree and disagree.

Yes, we will have an easier time infiltrating the DNC, but we should never forget that they are not on our side and will fight against us getting in as much as they can. We should still try, but have our eyes open as well.

Yes, we definitely should practice harm reduction and vote for neoliberals when the alternative is fascists. The part we really need to focus on (short term) is actually getting people to pay attention to and care about the primaries. Too many of us feel hopeless and skip that step. It's just as important as elections, if not more so. But again- we absolutely have to realize that our enemy when it comes to the primaries is the DNC, not the GOP. They have swore under oath that they believe they have the right to influence and manipulate primaries to get Neolibs on the ballot and keep progressives/leftists off, and the court agreed they had that right. It's their policy to do so. We simply cannot rely on their help and need to come up with strategies to work around their meddling and interference.

This meme is a continuation of the accelerationism we saw during the 2024 election.

I don't believe it is. You can still believe in and practice harm reduction, while having a realistic understanding of the situation at the same time. The DNC and GOP literally control the elections. and while it is possible we can sneak a few progressives and leftists past them, we will very likely never be able to take it over completely. They will NEVER vote to end the two party system, it makes them too powerful.

Our best hope is to get as many leftists into the DNC as we possibly can, while at the same time building momentum and support for a viable 3rd party coalition of everyone on the left. It's also critical we focus on educating the public and combating the billionaire owned mainstream media. We also have to build a network of local mutual aid communities that can serve all of those goals, while showing people that an alternative is not only possible, but preferable to relying on the system.

Once a critical mass of support has been gained, all of the DNC infiltrators can exit for the Left party en masse, not only weakening the DNC, but truly highlighting the differences between the two. At that point the tables will have been turned and people who vote D will be taking away votes from the L's and allowing the fascists to win.

I believe that is the only way to get an actual viable alternative to the DNC. Like the meme says we will not be able to reform it. Our only hope is to get asses in seats in Congress and force through election reform. IF we can manage to get rid of the first past the post style voting, and end the electoral college, then we would never again have to worry about voting for the lesser evil. That should be our number 1 long term goal.

I think going from recognizing that the Democrats will never be reformed to that means we won't vote for them over fascists and even worse that makes us pro- fascist is a hell of a stretch- and reporting memes that point out the truth is madness.

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[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 hours ago

I gladly note, that maker of this propaganda meme is fuckin stupid xD

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Can there be another Whigs party

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