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[–] candy_colors@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can someone please explain?

[–] klu9@piefed.social 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting that he's so optimistic about bluesky vs mastodon

[–] klu9@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think he has written about some of the better technical aspects of ATproto vs ActivityPub, but the one thing holding it back was how hard/expensive it was to host. Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

(NOTE: I am not an expert, just trying to recall from a little reading elsewhere)

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now apparently that final hurdle has been resolved.

He says so in this article, but afaik you won't get a full bluesky node, just parts of it. So it's not fully decentralized. But you're not under their TOS apparently.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually, you can host a full-network relay for $34 a month: https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y (article by a bluesky engineer).

All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All the other pieces are self hostable, PDSes are trival to host, and would cost less than $5 a month.

No I think they still have control over the decentralized identifiers, ironically

https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also: a lot of stuff from that article isn't really accurate anymore.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

yeah, honestly I wish them luck

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

You can use a web did.

But yeah, did:plc is a joke.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The good news here is that Bluesky has made enormous progress in true federation. The cost of operating a full Bluesky stack has fallen from tens of millions of dollars per year to tens of dollars per month

Great!

But Bluesky, the company, still needs serious work.

As things stand, Bluesky has very bad terms of service that every user who creates an account has to subject themselves to. In particular, Bluesky's ToS contain a "binding arbitration" waiver that forces users to surrender the right to sue Bluesky no matter how the company harms them. This is so pro-enshittificatory, it's like a landing strip for the sole use of Enshittification Airlines, which can land a 747 full of enshittfying nonsense on Bluesky's users every 10 minutes, around the clock, without worrying about any legal repercussions.

This is less great.

Edit: Wait, what?

The new waiver says that you don't have to arbitrate for "claims that fraud, criminal misconduct, or gross negligence by Bluesky caused death or personal injury." That sounds good! It also sounds like everything that someone might sue Bluesky for, leaving me to wonder what Bluesky will make you arbitrate for.

What's more, if the point of a binding arbitration waiver is to reduce nuisance suits and threats, this completely nullifies that tactic, because all a nuisance litigant has to do is claim that they are suing because of "fraud, criminal misconduct, or gross negligence," and Bluesky is back in court.

I'm more confused now.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Definitely important to look at, but also pretty industry standard. These texts are legal protections so they cover literally everything, even if a lot of those wouldn't hold in court.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] candy_colors@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

So I'm guessing their going to allow more cuckservatives on there huh? It's funny how truth social was never considered too right wing

We need to make mastodon/pixedfed and lemmy easier to understand for the masses

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I have not kept up with the lore.

Been on mastodon (actually gotosocial but same thing) for a bit now.

I knew at some point blue would get enshitified. Didn't think it would happen so soon though.