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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Leftists have been very clear about why the Democrats are failing their voters. A party that supports Capitalism can not support workers, simple as.

You can start listening to them and stop trying to bully them into submission any time you feel like engaging in reality.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People would listen if they actually showed up. If leftists are so numerous then it shouldn't be a problem to get many candidates elected. See mamdani. But in general they do not.

So either that many leftists don't exist or their policies aren't actually that popular OR theyre too lazy or ideological to go vote.

Either way, it ensures "establishment" candidates go on to the general election.

The only time your voice matters is in the voting booth. Far too many eschew that.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lefits show up and vote all the time. But the DNC keeps pushing them out of the race, so that they don't get on the ballot.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah...if that were true leftists would have the numbers and get people on the ballot. Or you're just admitting that leftists are not nearly as numerous as you claim.

Again- look at Mamdani. Over 25% of voters hadn't voted in a primary in over a decade. They finally decide to do so and ta da, a leftist wins the primary.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean when they finally get a leftist to vote for, they show up to vote? Crazy. Who could have seen that coming?

Leftists demonstrably vote, but not for right-wingers, so the DNC should probably stop kicking leftists off the ballot, and stop running right-wingers.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only thing leftists have in spades are excuses.

I wish you people would put up or shut up.

I say this as someone who WANTS those policies but of course the entire world is against leftists somehow and youre never short of reasons why you lose so goddamn often.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, we also have votes. But if you ignore all of the data showing how we show up to vote when given the option, but are not given the option, then you won't see it.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess. I don't see the sense in letting the right wing drive the car off the cliff because the car is not moving quick enough to your goals but you do you.

And you should be showing up all the time is the point. Including primaries for all positions.

The only way to overcome the inertia in the Democratic party is to, you know, actually participate every time. But in general primaries are very sparsely attended affairs and all these people with such great ideas don't put forth a candidate or at the least don't show up to move them past a primary. C'est la vie.

Honestly this is a good reason why the left is and will always be mostly ineffectual as a political movement.

When you're not fighting yourselves over who's the most ideologically pure you're spouting shit like this.