Unpopular Opinion
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1. NO POLITICS
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Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
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4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
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5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
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I agree; Feminism strives to be egalitarianism. It's inherently a misnomer in that it (the movement) strives to benefit more than women while only being named for women.
And to be clear, feminism is great. It's just a peculiar name given its actual tennets.
I would be all for giving women special treatment to make up the balance.
But, I need to know exactly how much special treatment to give women, and I'm not talking about just treating women equally, I'm saying giving them special treatments, special privileges, making them A class citizens and men B class citizens for a set time period, or whatever it takes until the balance is zero.
If they can show me an accounting or put together a concise, hey guys, you owe us exactly 800 trillion karma points, which can be redeemed by one good action at a time.
Sure, fine, let's get to it, let's take care of that debt, let's get rid of the interest, let's set everything back to 0 and start over from scratch.
Are the people downvoting me because I have been crass or crude in some way?
Have I missed some fundamental concept that would have caused a different outcome?
My statement is I want to zero out the debt and start over as a society with men and women being completely and totally equal in every way.
No past debts lingering overhead, a blank slate, a fresh start, a new us.
Why would anyone be against that?
I, as a man, have the capacity to apologize. Women, as women, have the capacity to forgive.
Why are we not making this happen somehow, some way?
probably the "making them A class citizens and men B class citizens" part, that's not very cash money, blank slate, fresh start. Certainly not "No past debts lingering," so the downvotes are probably a combination of your cognitive dissonance and smug attitude about fixing oppression with more oppression.
There's nothing about my attitude that smug. I'm saying that if there was a clear accounting of the total amount of damage is done by men to women, we should pay that debt off.
Like, please assume that I am collaborating in the conversation and that I'm looking to build something positive and not that I'm just trying to, like, one up or get up votes or anything else. I am contributing my viewpoint to the conversation. That's it.
Look buddy you asked why
Yeah, and you said I was smug about it, when there is no sense of smugness coming from me, which implies that you misread my intentions, so I clarified.
Or perhaps you're not presenting as you intend
Smuggest shit I've ever read.