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So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.
Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.
"Clearly trained". No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I've hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).
I'm seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it's a hard shot. It's not.
Sure, Jan. We used to hit womp rats no bigger than that back home.
Please stop, it hurts. 200 yards is not that hard with a rifle.
We just watched 2 botched attempts at assassination recently. Its clearly not an easy thing to pull off on high profile targets.
One of which was done by someone who was kicked off a shooting team for being a dangerously bad shot.
Give me a modern 30 cal hunting rifle, a good scope, ammo, and a benchrest at a 200 yard range and a target. I could teach you to hit a head-sized target in an afternoon, including time to dial in the scope. Hardest skill to learn is calming your nerves when it's a real human head.
And I'm telling you none of that good shot shit matters because the average person would not be able to remain calm for that. You need training.
And I'm telling you it's hardly impossible.
Edit: and it's very telling that you didn't consider that factor until I brought it up.
Olympics has a 62 yard rifle competition. Perfect score is theoretically over 450, though practically 450 cap is useful. Gold was 469 points, and 8th 400 points. Averaging under 9 points per shot, for 8th place, which is missing by more than an inch. Expanding to 200 yards, 8th best world athlete would miss on average by over 3 inches. (though only 1/3 of shots are taken in prone position).
Still, this is a good shot.
Olympics uses air guns. Totally different thing.
50m is "real rifle" also optimized for accuracy (just hit target at minimum force) rather than max blood gushing.
Ok, but 22lr, which still isn't comparable.
Maybe we agree... it is easier to shoot a competition/air rifle than a lethality rifle.
Opposite. Air guns (and 22lr) have a lot more bullet drop and windage to worry about at a given range than any 30 cal rifle.
an average golfer could pretty much do that with a golf club and a golf ball lol 200 yards is not far
A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional... He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it's literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.