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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 2 months ago (6 children)

just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

[–] Arnl@lemmy.zip 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you still seed while you download

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Meta's legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don't expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual... Shit is fucked.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn't even seed back!?

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago

How do I delete someone else's comment?

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send "random" 0s and 1s

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 months ago

The law is whatever the judge says it is. You could have undeniable proof of your innocence and still get convicted.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago

In the piratebay trial, just announcing the hashes was bad enough for a conviction

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

I mean, that's kind of what encrypted traffic looks like to anyone without the private key

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don't see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.

Once you have the entire file available, it's hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn't it be super effing interesting if everyone's torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?

I'm not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Coitus interruptus

One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that's how the Catholic Church calls it since that's their recommended "contraception" method, all of which I find hilarious.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.