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The US is moving to reclaim the Bagram airbase from the Taliban after losing it during the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, Donald Trump announced.

“We’re trying to get it back, by the way,” Mr Trump told reporters during a joint press conference with Sir Keir Starmer in Aylesbury on Thursday.

The Bagram base was the largest operated by the US in Afghanistan and is strategically important in countering China’s growing influence in the region.

Mr Trump suggested that he was negotiating with the Taliban to retake ownership, adding: “We’re trying to get it back because they need things from us. We want that base back.”

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I asked 6 marines who were walking around in full uniform in my town in Australia what they thought of trump last night. They said he's their commander and chief and two stayed silent.

I asked them kindly to fuck off put of our country because they're not welcome

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I asked 6 marines who were walking around in full uniform in my town in Australia what they thought of trump last night. They said he's their commander and chief and two stayed silent.

I don't know how you handled it, but you just asked 6 guys to talk about their boss. Them saying he's their commander-in-chief is saying "I'm not at liberty to speak freely." If you were friendly and asked them I'm casual conversation over a beer, you might get actual opinions, but you're asking for trouble if you just go around asking people to shit-talk their bosses.

I live in an area with a lot of military presence. A large number of people who join are just doing it for the benefits. I'm sure you're aware, but normal citizens don't get free college or Healthcare (in fact, it's incredibly expensive), but if you sign up for the military they pay for college, you get socialized Healthcare, they cover housing, and a lot more. Most aren't doing it because they love Trump, or even out of patriotic duty. They're doing it because shit sucks, and it's an option that gets them out of a hole. I'm generally anti-military (particularly in the US), but I don't hold it against people. Most of them don't like Trump, in my experience. He does not have the support of our military personnel, and I'll welcome them if shit finally breaks down and they abandon the state.

I asked them kindly to fuck off put of our country because they're not welcome

First, they literally are welcome there. Take that issue up with your government. You ask other people to stand up to their government, then you complain about other people's government for what your government does. Second, they don't have a choice. You sign up and you don't really get to choose what you'll do or where you'll do it. See above for why they joined.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Change starts with a step,

Me telling them got other people involved. It's very apparent we don't want them here.

I have even sent useless letters to my representative and got boilerplate back.

I don't care why they joined, they're part of a machine that isn't wanted in our town

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This thread is about someone asking people to take dramatic action to get their government to listen, but I'm certain they aren't doing anything either.

I have even sent useless letters to my representative and got boilerplate back.

This is exactly my point. People are saying Americans need to take risks they aren't willing to take. Congratulations! You sent a letter! Those will never do anything, and yet that's all you've done, and you're asking Americans to fight back. We're the ones actually living with this military that has the power to fight most of the rest of the world.

I don't care why they joined, they're part of a machine that isn't wanted in our town

I don't know if this is true. Honestly, I doubt it. Maybe you don't want them where you are, but one thing I know about Australia right now is they're worried about China. Guess why those bases are there. You have American taxpayers paying for your defence. Most people are NIMBYs —they want it, just not in their back yard.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't care if Americans fight back or not. I think they should just dig their holes on their own and leave the rest of us out of it.

The way America is going a growing consensus of people here would rather China as our overlords then American Nazis now too.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take it up with your government. The US doesn't own that land. Your government leases it out. They're there on behalf of your citizens.

(Sure, there is some coercion, but that's always true. At the end of the day it's up to you, not Americans, if things aren't the way you want.)

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm entitled to tell Americans how we feel and that we don't want them here.

Americans have their heads so far up their arses they think the world is there's

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, you're entitled to say that. I'm not trying to stop you. This started with someone saying Americans should do something (they didn't say what) pretending like their nation doesn't have problems. All nations have rising fascism right now.

Also, as we're going with entitlement, American soldiers are entitled to be there. They're there with the express permission of your government. You can not like it, but they're entitled to it. Being entitled to do something doesn't make it right.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you get socialized Healthcare

No, you get state-provided healthcare, same as you get in any other developed non-socialist country besides the US.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Sure. The term in the US that is used is "socialized healthcare", mostly as a pejorative. I use the term in this instance to point out their hypocrisy. It's state-provided taxpayer funded healthcare, but that's only acceptable in the US for service members and dependants, for some reason.