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Imagine if ICE ordered your plane to land and they arrest all the passengers and flight attendants to bring into their torture facilities.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, MAGA fascists don't have to make a lot of sense, but what's the point of forcibly bringing in people you'd want to send out on a plane anyway, when it was planning to do that in the first place? I think that should be obvious to even the most faithful followers.

Anyway, as a thought experiment, if you love being seated on planes but you think US airspace stinks, you can go from Mexico City to Toronto via Bogotá and Paris or Madrid if you are okay with passing above Puerto Rico only.

Or, to avoid it completely, you can go to Panamá, Rio de Janeiro, Lisbon, then Toronto. Now to compare flight prices and travel times (won't include any layover time, price is lowest baggage tier, random dates in October)

  • MEX -> YYZ direct: $387, 4h50m
  • MEX -> BOG -> MAD -> LIS -> YYZ: $1827, 23h40m
  • MEX -> PTY -> GIG -> LIS -> YYZ: $2583, 28h50m.
[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or Cuba? Or any number of other places that are actually somewhat enroute instead of making up idiotically convoluted and long routes?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

The question is specifically how to avoid US airspace. There are plenty of direct flights from Latin America to Canada but they all pass through US terrestrial or oceanic airspace.

So you can stop at Havana or Varadero, but then you'll still be passing over the Florida, North Carolina and New England coasts controlled by US-towers, on your way to Canada. It's so far an unfounded fear but I'm entertaining it just to see the circuitous route you'd need to take to avoid it.