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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm reasonably certain that at this point there's absolutely nothing that Trump could do that would actually be "impeachable" in anything other than a speculative and legalistic sense, since making it a reality would require courage, determination and integrity, and those qualities are in vanishingly short supply in a Congress comprised almost entirely of co-conspirators, sycophants, enablers, sybarites and cowards.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He's been impeached twice tbf

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need to get past this, everyone means convicted not just impeached.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Think you mean removed. The house votes to impeach and the Senate votes to remove after impeachment passes.

His felony convictions are a separate matter that he will never have consequences for.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Your confusion is exactly what I'm talking about.

There are two steps when removing the president:

  1. Congress can vote to impeach, with simple majority
  2. Senate holds an impeachment trial. They need 2/3s vote to find the president guilty of the charges (convict the president).

What everyone gets confused by is that twice congress found enough evidence to open a trial to remove Trump, but he was never convicted by the Senate/found guilty.

Here's an article that talks more about it - https://constitutionus.com/constitution/what-are-the-steps-of-the-impeachment-process/

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

And even then there wasn't enough integrity or courage to carry through with the next step and remove him from office, so the impeachments were ultimately just empty gestures.

And now we won't even get that.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oooh, new word! Thanks for "Sybarite."

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He could be impeached for making the oligarchs poorer.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

True, but I think he's too feckless and desperate for approval to do that. He's stupid and self-absorbed enough to move towards doing it, but I'm sure that all it takes is a few judicious words in his ear to make him once again chicken out.

The few exceptions appear to be things on which the oligarchs apparently stupidly agreed with him - like trying to head off Chinese AI development by cutting them off from western chips, which ended up being just the kickstart that the Chinese chip industry needed to ramp up their production to the point that China no longer needs foreign chips.

I can see how they might want to blame something like that on him, but I don't know if they'd stick their necks out that far, or succeed if they did.

But yeah - if there's any chance of him actually being punished for his many and egregious crimes, "no longer being useful to the oligarchs" would be it.