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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 85 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This has been a huge win for Kimmel, and Free Speech. When he returned, he not only didn't apologize, he went HARD after Brendan Carr and Trump.

Clearly, what happened is that the public outcry against ABC was enormous, and ferocious. They are a broadcast TV network that has had an FCC license as long as there have been FCC licenses. They have a responsibility to uphold the First Amendment, and they folded so fast, and so easily, that those who made that decision should all be fired. And America let them know that in far, far bigger numbers than they expected.

The "talks" that they were having with Kimmel were almost certainly him telling them how this was going to go, because he held ALL the cards. He had the law, the Constitution, and ALL of America on his side. He even had MAGAs on his side. He was negotiating from a position of Ultimate Power. He was going to say whatever he wanted, and they weren't going to have any say in it.

This was a battle between MAGA and Free Speech, and Free Speech won big. It was also a battle between Trump and Kimmel, and Kimmel won big, although I prefer to think of it as TRUMP LOST BAD. He was gloating that he had destroyed Kimmel, and now Kimmel is not only back, he is stronger, and more popular than ever, for having won this battle. It will be far more difficult for Trump to fight this sort of battle again. Now that the other networks have seen it play out, they won't succumb to pressure and threats so easily.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Well. The backlash didn't Just Happen in the USA. It was across a lot of countries.

Somewhat feels good that this actually worked Out.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

TRUMP LOST BIGGLY

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly he die apologize in a way though. Did this whole bs about how he didnt want to make fun of his death and almost crying saying that. It was pathetic. The only good think Charlie Kirk ever did was die early and that should be celebrated, not cried over.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Read the original joke that Kimmel got suspended for. It wasn't about Charlie Kirk. He never celebrated CK's death in any way, but he did highlight the predictable MAGA responses and hypocrisy whenever there is another heinous gun fatality, and that's always fair game.

[–] Aquaphobi@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean he didn’t apologize? He did apologize?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Mixed, What the right wanted out of him was groveling and pain. He certainly didn't do that.

Most of the mid/left wanted to see him come out and say I'm back bitches and you were all wrong, I didn't do shit and that guy who has been on video praising the necessity of gun violence got FAFO'd.

He didn't do that either.

He clarified that he was fired over a nothingburger and whose fault it was and repeated his empathy for the family and how horrible the situation was.

At the very least disney deserved more of a FU, but when neither side gets what they want, and shit returns to normal, negotiations are probably as good as they get.

We'd like to see the Horst Wessel they're building be dismantled. But that's not going to happen here. We're still going to trudge along in the deep red zone of history.