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Where does Palantir get the data from to begin with? (infosec.pub)

submitted 1 week ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/privacy@programming.dev

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They don't have a social media service, right? So where do they get the data to train their AI models ? Surely they need a lot, right? It would be nice if the public knew who cooperates with them (other than governments) and just boycott their services, or at least pressure them.

If company X doesn't offer your data to governments officials, but offers them to Palantir which makes a profile of you that it offer to the same officials, isn't that even worse ?

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[–] entwine@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I've been wondering about this recently too. Everyone has had that situation where they talk about (Thing) out loud with someone, and then a few seconds later they see an advertisement for (Thing). That means there is something recording conversations and selling it to advertisers. I don't see why those companies wouldn't sell that to Palantir too.

The obvious suspect for "who the fuck is recording my conversations" is smartphones, but it's also probably IOT shit like smart TVs and other appliances. Even if not connected to wifi, some could include their own modems.

In addition to this, Palantir could also just buy location and other data directly from telecom companies. They could even have deals with eg Qualcomm to backdoor their SoCs or implement data collection. (Except I think something like that would've been caught be security researchers already)