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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And “Men” is a metaphor. You say it excludes women, but in fact, it doesn’t even really include men. It means people in general, ALL people.

so "Men" in the Lord of the Rings sense

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Well, yeah, but bigger than that. It has been a customary social expectation for literally centuries, to refer to all collective humanity as "men." Tolkien was merely using it the same common, traditional way, same as the Founding Fathers, and pretty much everyone else in history, until the last few decades.