MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in unrelated arguments.
Brigading — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from voting, commenting or manipulating the post in any way, this includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be permanently banned.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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i like how many alt accounts they make to troll on this community, but they never bother to actually talk about their views or try to convince people
They don't talk about their views on ml either. They aren't communists.
I'm not really informed on this divide, can you explain a bit more what you mean? Like what makes you say the last bit, how can I tell them apart?
/gen
Oh antiyanks~
How would trying to convince people in your reactionary community be any good use of anyone’s time? I tried convincing you not to facilitate hate speech and other inhuman rhetoric, but you seem unwilling or unable to comprehend these simple concepts.
Would you, for once, approach their perspective with genuine good will and interest, I’m sure many of them would be happy to engage. You aren’t, tho. So why would they? There’s nobody to convince.
Also, just to clarify, since you seem to feel like your little hate bubble is important enough for others to use alt accounts or actually troll, my account is not an alt and when I engage with you, I try not to troll. But I’m also not really them. I just seriously want to see, if that’s all there is to your persona.
Why do you even suggest they should bother, when you are the ignorant one? Because you are a dishonest and spiteful poor soul. Please bother to convince me otherwise.
I don't facilitate hate speech or other inhuman rhetoric? What do you mean by this?
Do you reset your own memory with every other new post? I laid that out in front of you several times now, I’m not going to put in more effort, so you can keep avoiding to address it. In short, you excuse dehumanizing language, rather then moderate it. Because you are in agreement.
You wanted to convince me that you’re not what I said you are, but you’re in the process of failing. Failing again, because you keep dodging and distracting. Shabby.
I don't excuse dehumanising language, what do you mean?
Read my post history in this community, if your memory is really that bad. Stop bothering me with busy tasks.
But your memory isn’t that bad, right? It’s just the dumb distraction game you play when you’re confronted.
I invite you to be more honest with one another!
Bro said this when they start attack someone.
That’s what he does, tho. If I do bother complying, he wouldn’t engage with the actual arguments or critique. That’s what I’m referencing and that’s also why I won’t play that stupid game. Tried a few times, it’s a useless endeavour.
but i am. i asked what hate speech am i allowing and your response is that I already know what hatespeech I'm allowing :v
Okay, so, here, I bothered. Now show me how you’re not answering any of my arguments in regards to hate speech and distract from the inherent toxicity of your community, which you facilitate (might have to read context, don’t pretend the infos aren’t there):
Round 1, Round 2, Round 3
Three cases, where I confronted you with that, every time you avoided positioning yourself and distracted. Within a couple of weeks, in an almost dead community. Maybe you should get your head checked, if you can’t remember these confrontations. Last time I’ll answer any of your “show me” questions as I regard them as unserious distractions now.
Let’s see how you’ll not do it again, this time. Am off for now, tho. Take your time, understand the critique, drink a tea, reflect, drink another tea.
Those are all from the same user, whom I have since punished.
The third one is not the same account. Is it the same user? You tell me, you’re the mod.
So you actually managed to do moderation stuff and banned the fascist for a whole week, congratulations. I am indeed a bit surprised, gj!
How did that came to be? Because every time I pointed out their language, you ignored it, even called me unhinged for articulating a thorough critique. So you didn’t act on the user spewing hate speech, but on the user confronting you with your ignorant inaction. I don’t see how you’re fit for the job, lol.
Regarding the third example: instead of acting on the hate speech for which the user got their comment deleted (they openly fantasized about scenarios on how to kill a whole group of people), you used your energy to smudge the meaning of ableism in order to defend their post complaining about it. You’re still a shady and dishonest human being. And I am sorry, but that’s what I’m getting from your behaviour.
So, what brought you so far to actually ban a fascist for a week, what did he actually say? Because the instances I showed you obviously weren’t bad enough for you to act on it.
they broke the rules
Thanks for your comprehensive answer, lol.
i don't moderate on the basis of my views
if you got any examples, feel free to share em dude
As I said, failing.
i wait
I do, too. Let’s wait together 😘