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I don't see how that is being a dick. He's right.
Imagine you see a guy with broken limbs, asking you for help, and you go "NO! The government should be there to help you!" and walk away.
You're right on principle.
You're still being a dick.
You'd call the ambulance before walking away? I mean, I'm not a doctor, what else am I supposed to do?
What does this have to do with tipping?
That just suggesting they shouldn't need tips to live doesn't stop them from needing tips to live, while patrons continue to support the establishment that isn't paying the workers.
In Canada, tipping is entirely optional, but I still tip well because it's not actually service workers fault that they don't have an uncle Jimmy their dad has convinced to give them unique job opportunities. And people keeping getting meaner.
Yes it would be nice if we didn't live in a system that forces people to look to each other for scraps while others build yachts for their yachts, finding moral excuses to withhold money from the poorest.
Yup. And, likewise, you should tip before the government fixes the employment market.
I really don't see the parallel here. Calling an ambulance for someone in need is a no-brainer. Also doesn't cost me anything.
But why should pick up the tab for the government failing to regulated some business and employers exploiting the lack of regulations?
Like, if there is no ambulance service in a specific region do you expect me to become an amateur EMT as well?
Right, so what's your reaction when someone's on the ground like that and there's no ambulance service? Just tell him "shit luck, mate" and walk away?
Really depends in the injury.
But assuming it's something that will kill them without immediate hospitalization ... yeah, pretty much. I guess I can sit with them till they dead ...
Unless it's taking too long because I really need to go pack my stuff and get out of this god-forsaken place without ambulance service.
Christ, I'm impressed at how fucking much you managed to miss the point...
If you disagree with the practice, then don't spend money at those businesses. Going to a tip-based restaurant and not tipping enriches the exploitative owner while adding to the exploitation.
Do you also think it's fine to buy cheap goods made with slave labor because you're not personally the one cracking the whip?
He's right, but he's not doing what he thinks he's doing.
Another moment in difficult nerd history
You can still be a dick even when you are right. He was punishing the worker out of principle. The worker is forced to participate in the system, it’s not their fault the tipping system exists. Yet he still paid the bill and thus rewarded the people that perpetuated the system.
Oupsie daisy, I spilled some Hot soup on you, sorry sorry!
(You're right though, but I still spilled hot soup on you)
Workers should be paid a fair wage from the start and tipping shouldn't be necessary. That much is true.
But when he knows that the system is the way it is, refusing to tip and trying to convince others not to tip isn't helping those workers get paid. That's being a dick.
It could also be argued that you are perpetuating the system by playing along, which is also a dick move.
So don't go to that restaurant, and let everyone know why. Continuing to go and not tipping is just exploitation
He’s directly supporting the people benefiting from the exploitation of the workers while lowering their pay. The most generous explanation I can come up with is accelerationism, trying to incite the workers to strike, but that’s still a dick move.
"You're stuck in a system you shouldn't have to be in, so fuck you for that"