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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you're going to auto generate passwords, just use BitWarden.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If you're going to use a password vault, use one you host yourself and not someone else's service.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Most people can not host it. Of those who can, many shouldn't host it, for their own safety.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well that’s some FUD nonsense to excuse laziness.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you really think most people are up to it, you live in a bubble.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If you really think most people are up to using a password manager, you live in a bubble.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago

I got my non-gamer boomer neighbor on Bitwarden. It's not that complicated.

She's never had a job or hobby where she had to use a computer and she picked up "oh, I store all my passwords in this magic browser thing? That's way more convenient that remembering which kid's birthday was the password to my email." I also taught her how to copy and paste using the keyboard (and that you can remind yourself of what the shortcut is by right-clicking and looking at the shortcut hint in the menu).

[–] markz@suppo.fi 5 points 16 hours ago

There's quite a difference in the required level of knowledge between installing an app and self-hosting services.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago

I think for most it's much easier to have a local file for passwords (keepass) and just sync that using whatever sync software you might be using.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, no. I don't trust myselft to keep it well maintained, up to date, nor available when it matters most.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -3 points 18 hours ago

Oh, that’s fine; I've been wrong before, too.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The difference in complexity in setting up bitwarden and using your own self-hosted instance of bitwarden is fucking massive. For 99.9% of people rhem using bitwarden would greatly improve their password security and bitwarden has proven to be better than the competition.

[–] cmrss2@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI Vaultwarden is simpler and should be easier to self-host

[–] guy@piefed.social 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Would love to set up Vaultwarden, but I trust my own skills in hardening a server less than Bitwardens

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

I don't even trust my server skills enough to open my jellyfin to the internet.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I use KeePass. It's just a local file (which you can sync/host how you see fit if you need to). I don't understand why people choose to use password managers hosted by other people. You almost certainly don't need that, and it introduces issues and vulnerabilities with little upside.