this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2025
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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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Their argument is something like this:
People might say something like "ai is incapable of thinking" or "ai is stupid", but if you replace the word "ai" with something like "women", you're saying something unacceptable.
"If you said something different you would've said something different" what brilliant rhetoric, your mom must be proud
OP isn't saying that, they're showing someone else's opinion.
So they're attributing personhood to AI.
Before it has come anywhere close to meaningfully mimicking conciousness.
Are they stupid?
I always assume people like this are suburban white boys with nothing better to bitch about. I would love to see them explain how clanker is a racist term to people that actually experience racism.
I'm a middle-aged white guy and one of my only friends is the young black guy down the street. Having a giggle because I can see the look on his face while I explain all this. "I'm listening and trying to take you seriously while not laughing my ass off in your face."
AI believers believe that stringing random words together is equal to consciousness, they absolutely are stupid.
Perhaps because it reflects their level of consciousness.
Yeah that was my biggest takeaway is these posts seem to assume sentience in what's little more than a sophisticated "most likely next word" generator. There's tons of cool things that can be done with these new machine learning tools, but they are not sentient, they are not close to sentience and we may never invent artificial sentience.
The one thing we now know for sure is we can damn well convince people of sentience artificially far more easily than I ever suspected
We'll get true AI one day, but the timeline and methods are up in the air. I'm not even sure LLMs will be a piece of the puzzle. Guess we'll learn something from the exercise.
Ah makes sense now! So if I change the meaning, then the meaning changes. Man, that’s brilliant!