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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 6 hours ago

There's one saving grace... The sheer fucking incompetence

How long do you think this will remain stable? We're in a free fall by every metric. The dollar is down, the stocks are down (except for the ai bubble... That's going to be a big pop), the housing market is crashing, insurance is falling apart, federal workers are getting mass fired by email, job numbers are shrinking...

How long until something important breaks? If we're lucky, we can keep the shutdown going long enough for ICE to drain whatever funds they can misappropriate and see what happens to brown shirts when they aren't getting paid

Bad shit is going to happen. China is going to get Taiwan, hopefully after chip factories are set up elsewhere. The people in Gaza are fucked. Immigrants and minorities are getting terrorized. Ukraine can go either way, Russia is in a bad way and Ukraine is feeling war fatigue.

The Internet is dying, cyber attacks are ramping up, deep fakes are getting very good, palantir is setting up surveillance everywhere, AI is going to do some future crime bullshit

But despite all that, life will go on.

Maybe the military steps in to force elections - at least they so far refuse to even menace the people, if they decide they have to act to save the Constitution as per their oaths nothing could stop them

Trump is actively dying, and Vance doesn't have the juice to keep everyone in line - there will be a power struggle

Trump's end goal is to live out his remaining days in an imaginary kingdom where his legacy will live on forever.

Vance's goal is to go on never ending extravagant vacations

Peter Tiel thinks if society collapses billionaires will be able to step in and make technocratic kingdoms... But again, the military has plans to feed the entire country for extended periods and restore order in every imaginable collapse scenario

This just is not a stable state of affairs, it has to end, but no one is properly preparing for what comes next.

Maybe the country is fucked, but what about your state? Your city? Maybe things only get better locally for a while, and the federal government becomes less relevant

Maybe the military does step in but decides they don't want to organize new elections...a military junta isn't ideal, but it would be more restrained and orderly than this

Maybe lots of people die from starvation and sickness and those that survive have to rebuild

As for how to keep going? I look for the cracks. Watch Trump's speeches - he probably just had another stroke, and he's noticably more incoherent than even this summer. The leaks never stop. They're rehiring a lot of cut workers. Abrego Garcia is still in the country. Candidates like Mumdani are coming out of the woodwork. Learn about economic indicators and watch them plummet. Learn about what happens historically in similar situations.

It'll be painfully slow, but eventually we'll hit rock bottom. And then we can build something new