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yeah. frankly while most left/liberal dont' see it, Trump is also a product of the pendulum swinging. we have been on a good spat of liberalization for 30+ years and there was going to be a backlash. and as someone who grew up working class white, i totally get the unfairness and bitterness of so many of those people who the economic/education system has totally abandoned, and the horrible feelings and condescending that comes from the liberal elite/educated set who look down on everyone who isn't highly educated and living in a coastal city. i got lucky and got to be one of those people, but many of my peers did not.

frankly i find it truly revolting how much of liberal america is so disgusting smug and condescending towards anyone who isn't exactly like them, and that massively accelerated in the 2010s. used to be in the 2000s people would respect/admire me for working my way from a poor working class family to elite school on scholarship and putting myself through grad school and building al ife for myself... somewhere around 2015 that all became to change though and i repeatedly starting meeting folks who told me that i should have 'stayed in my place' and my 'education is wasted on losers like you'. etc. and that attitude has only gotten worse and worse in the 2020s. i'd say there is a massive massive increase in class snobbery and elitism that didn't exist 10-20 years ago.

i've also noticed progressives have moved away from economic issues largely and are entirely focused on culture war bullshit, esp use trans people and trans rights as the most important thing ever, which has alienated many many people due to the rage and hatred being spouted over it. to me this is a horrible horrible move, and plays right into the right wing's advantages. because they are offer a much clearer narrative about these things than the left/liberals are. and clear narratives win elections and voters.

what baffles me is how the democrats can't understand or replicate Obama's success and messaging and act like he was some act of God. He wasn't. He just appealed to people's sentiments and listened to them... just like Trump did in this last election... meanwhile the democrats totally ignore the people and lecture us that they know better than we do what is going on in the country and we should be happy with how things are.

I hope someone on the left/dems capitalized on the severe economic need in this country and steers away from the culture war bullshit. A candidate that wants to actually fix the problems in this country that affect everyone, but it seems nobody is coming forth to do so. And at best we are just getting some candidates who are just going to go with the 'trump bad, me not trump' routine again, which we know doesn't work.

what a lot of people miss in Trumps success is that he had a clear vision people could get behind, even if it was all bullshit and lies.