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Prove it then. Offer up the material proof of the USA directly determining a winner or maybe consider that we do know who chooses the winners and it is former winners. The US government isnt going to have much sway.
Prove what. That they can be corrupt and make bad picks.
The US could or could not have sway. I am not suggesting they do, just saying it could be done.
I believe former winners nominate people, the actual decisions are made by a five member Norwegian Nobel Committee.
But it is such a useless statement? Everything could be influenced by something or someone.
KatManDoo obviously sees the peace price committee as a puppet show played by the US. This is obviously not the case and stating 'but they could add pressure, theoretically, maybe, possibly' is not adding anything else but realism conspiracies
For sure it is, but when the committee is picking someone only a Neo Liberal would you start seeing the magic of the Nobel Peace Prize slip away.
Not only could they be influenced it is apparent that they are also not immune to the pervasive influence of capitalists regardless of their actual intentions.
My reaction is basically, let's get real. They are not beyond corruption. That is all I am getting at. I am not trying to prove a conspiracy, because there is no need to.
The Nobel Peace Prize committee makes shitty picks like when they gave the award to Obama who then proceeded to bomb the shit out of the Middle East.
So yeah, there is definitely a reason to be critical of them.
I literally told you what you need to be anle to prove your claim. You need material evidence of this happening in the past.
Material evidence of them giving a Noble Peace Prize to someone who ended up being a war criminal? Sounds pretty subjective to me.
But I will bite. Obama. Now it is up to you to refute he is not a war criminal and it was not a shitty pick. GO!
No, material proof of the USA forcing the Nobel committee to appoint someone as that is your actual claim. You don't have that so you are offering up a strawman
I never made that claim, you did. I can't prove a claim you made up. Please go back and try reading.
" Doomsider @lemmy.world English Are you seriously suggesting that Noble Peace awards are beyond influence and corruption"
Literally your claim. Do you have proof of this?
And I gave an example of a corrupt pick. Obama.
So I never said the US forced them to pick anyone only that they are not above influence.
Are you done making up strawmen now?
The amount of dishonesty you display is staggering.
No you offered up a strawman with Obama as he was not picked by the USA nor have you provided evidence that Obama’s selection was influenced by the USA. You argued against his selection to “win” which is what a strawman argument is.
You offered no proof of influence or corruption only a straw-man claim.
Lol, I am done playing logical fallacies with you. You just keep saying things I never said acting like a buffoon. Have fun arguing with yourself. Cheers!