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I recognize appreciating cool machines, I really do. I've just never been able to wrap my head around being a car guy. Spending huge chunks of change on a car, consistently modifying it, watching car shows all the time. I just dont get it. What's the big draw for you?

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[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I understand disliking those things. I dislike them too. What I don't understand, is associating those things to every car enthusiast.

Off the top of my head I can think of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that drive politely, don't purposefully make their vehicles louder, and don't make alterations like removing converters that result in worse emissions.

One of these enthusiasts has a few Japanese imports that have barely enough power to drive on the highways, and he certainly wouldn't be passing anyone in those things. Another regularly rebuilds Honda engines and transmissions. One drives a car that I swear has been on its last leg for a decade, but he maintains a couple racing cars and gets his fun out on the track. A few I know have switched from combustion to electric cars. They're still car enthusiasts.

We shouldn't be painting every member of a group with the same brush as would be used for its most extreme members. You and I don't want to be referred to as stupid bicyclists because some people that also ride bikes have a habit of cutting lanes, hopping sidewalks, and riding across private lawns.

'Car enthusiast' is such a non specific term, as can be seen in this very post. These people don't deserve to be judged by the actions of street racers, for example. It's like judging an entire nationality or race or language or diet solely based on the worst individual that ever was any of those things. To do so is rather shortsighted.

People don't change their positions just because you act nicely

For what it's worth - which may well be nothing but I've written this much already - I have myself experienced people changing their minds when approached with open arms, after multiple brutish attempts had failed. Even if trying kindly fails nine times out of ten, that's still better than failing ten times out of ten with a brutish method.