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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Don't rely on religious people to back LGBTQ, as most of the LGBTQ hate comes from religions like islam, christianity, and judiaism. Their holy hate books support their LGBTQ hate, and have for thousands of years.

Don't mix religion and government, that's how you get nazis and project 2025. The muslim or jewish versions are no better.

[–] SectoidLexi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She's not mixing religion and government. She just happens to be a Muslim who is also a politician. But if that itself is a problem I wonder if you say this to every Christian and Jewish politician too?

She seems like one of the rare few religious people who actually gets it and cares, but I agree with being wary of religious politicians in general, because most do NOT get it and do not want to.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They did mention project 2025 and Nazis, to be fair, as well as specifically calling it Judaism and Christianity. I'm not sure the implication that the person you're replying to is islamophobic is fair.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yes it is, because comparing a muslim to project 2025 nazis simply on the basis of them being muslim is islamophobic. It also ignores the fact that most homophobia in MENA was introduced by colonialism. That trans people can transition in even theocratic muslim states like Iran and so on

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[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

People have said the same thing about Zohran Mamdani btw, despite him being extremely vocal about his support for trans rights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvVSpN0BXg

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is just islamophobia. People are people, I take them at face value.

[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Where is this specifically islamophobia rather than just anti-religiousness?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It being a response to an article about a muslim woman???

[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Usually the Religion isn’t mentioned in the headline, so maybe that’s what prompted them to make that comment?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except it is often in the headline if the person is islamic...

[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s on the people writing headlines though, not on the commenter

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They chose to respond that comment to this article. Whether it was in the headline or not is irrelevant.

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[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they mention two other religions, and criticise religion generally. This is not targeted at Islam specifically and exclusively.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (33 children)

I don't buy that. The comment is in response to this article. Generalising it doesn't make it less prejudice. That's like saying it's not antisemitic to walk into a* synagogue and start shouting about how all religion is evil.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The comment about religion is on an article about a religious person, yes. I guess OP could have gone and found a different article that specifically mentions a different religion in the headline, but that would have been prejudiced against that particular religion, yeah? What are we supposed to just pussyfoot around any naming of any specific religion?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The US doesn't have an anti-christianity issue, it has an anti-islam issue.

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[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Punching at all religions equally is not equitable since one is the dominant religion oppressing others. Also reducing a religion to its book is just a profound misunderstanding of what religion is. And is completely ignorant of the history of homophobia in muslim countries which is largely influenced by the colonial powers occupying it.

And going from "muslim woman" to "she's like the american taliban" is just racist.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love that u ended ur point with something you completely made up and didn't happen.

I get what ur saying in the first half, tho, i just dont agree

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don’t mix religion and government, that’s how you get nazis and project 2025.

Thats scaremongering that letting a muslim into congress will lead to what people call the "american taliban" simply on the basis of her being muslim. That's racist.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You keep putting "american taliban" in quotes, but you're not quoting anyone present. You're the only one here using that terminology.

You see, from my perspective, I see the candidate's religion being Islam as a plus at first glance. It probably means they'll have a better policy on the Palestinian genocide, for example. Or be better for brown people in general.

I think, on lemmy, that's how most people are going to interpret that headline.

That's just an atheist pointing out that Islam is no better than the other Abrahamic religions, from my perspective. The way I interpret this is that the fact that she is muslim is being used as a positive spin, when at best it is a neutral spin that doesn't even need mentioned.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The way I interpret this is that the fact that she is muslim is being used as a positive spin, when at best it is a neutral spin that doesn’t even need mentioned.

Incorrect, since muslims get mentioned on every negative thing in the headlines, therefore not mentioning it on positive things hides the positive news out of the muslim community while highlighting the negatives.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, it's a leftist article being posted in a leftist space, so... no. Doesn't need to be mentioned here.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s a leftist article that might be visible outside of a leftist space, so… yes. It does need to be mentioned here.

muslim mentioned

islamophobia disguised as "rationalism" activated!!

[–] baka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed. Look at the most Nazi state, Israel.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conflating zionism with judaism is antisemitic. Conflating Islam with the political extremists using it as cover is islamophobia.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't understand your response.

Israel is a country
Israelis are citizens
Nazi is evil
Israelis are acting like Nazis
Israelis are evil

I don't see any politics, religion or prejudice in that.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the comment its replying to is talking about religious politicians.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, right. baka infers...

Hmm, I'm a little dull this morning.

Get some coffee 😁