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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Adira was being called she/her for the first few episodes they were there because of that reason. No one is ever going to know that they’re non-binary unless they say it. They then had a singular fucking line where they said I prefer they/them. Like… this is why I got frustrated before because that is going out of its way to not make a point of it. There was a singular scene with a singular line. It’s maddening to hear people say that they drew any attention at all when they went out of their way to give it as little attention as possible.

Ah, I actually thought it was a longer, more emotional scene from the way I've seen it talked about, or even the focus of an episode. A quick comment is basically exactly how I would have expected Trek to handle that. I mean, yeah, gender isn't always visible, especially for non-binary folks, so it needs to be mentioned.

So, fun fact. Culber was always intended to die in Season 1 and be resurrected in Season 2. Not something I personally like or agree with but I do find it interesting.

I really didn't like Berg and Harberts as showrunners. They had a serious penchant for melodrama and I found it suspicious that they claimed everything viewers didn't like was Fuller's fault, even in episodes produced long past when Fuller left. And that was before we found out how they were treating the staff. Killing a character for shock value while intending to revive them later very much sounds like them.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Ah, I actually thought it was a longer, more emotional scene from the way I’ve seen it talked about, or even the focus of an episode. A quick comment is basically exactly how I would have expected Trek to handle that. I mean, yeah, gender isn’t always visible, especially for non-binary folks, so it needs to be mentioned.

Oh nah, it was extremely short. Take a look here. Adira first starts coming out at 20 seconds and at 48 seconds it cuts to a different scene of Culber and Hugh talking about Adira. Just using they/them pronouns with no big deal. Grey, Adira's Trill boyfriend is a trans man too. There's a couple of lines that he says that are off hand references about being trans. Clearly there to be like "Trans representation!" but not enough to be like "MASSIVE BIG DEAL!" Especially because Grey's whole experience was radically different from Adira's.

I really didn’t like Berg and Harberts as showrunners. They had a serious penchant for melodrama and I found it suspicious that they claimed everything viewers didn’t like was Fuller’s fault, even in episodes produced long past when Fuller left. And that was before we found out how they were treating the staff. Killing a character for shock value while intending to revive them later very much sounds like them.

Part of it was shock value from them but it was also talked about by, I think it was, Michelle Paradise. They wanted to use it for a variety of different things. It was a bit tone deaf for sure but it wasn't just the chucklefucks. And yeah... almost nothing was Fuller's fault. Especially when Fuller's whole vision of Discovery was radically different at the start. He wanted American Horror Story but Star Trek. That's why the registry ID is 1031. 10-31. Halloween. Dude has a hard on for scary stuff. Got some tastes of that with the tardigrade/Glenn episode (that was great) and some psychological horror with Mudd timelooping murder and the Agonizer booths looking more terrifying than they ever have though.