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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Proton masses, the distance light travels in a vacuum in a certain time, and cesium oscillation times are quite constant.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

proton masses are rather small - inconvenient

the distance light travels at a certain time - then it'll just be based on our artificial units of time

cesium oscillation i don't know much about but from what i quickly read it's also about keeping time, 1s to be precise, which is still an arbitrary unit

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Time can be non arbitrarily defined as a round number value of times cesium oscillates between two hyperfine states, to allow time to be non arbitrary and still a useful size.

[–] Zorcron@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The round number would still be arbitrary, no? It’s roundness would be based on the base 10 counting system, which is also arbitrary.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Not arbitrary. Base 10 because we usually have 10 fingers and those are useful for learning counting. If you have to choose a base, 10 is a good option for humans.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

That's still an arbitrary number to pick, and the choice of cesium oscillation seems pretty arbitrary in the grand scheme of things.