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[–] dmention7@midwest.social 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's not even just that, they believe that people on government assistance need to be constantly shamed and humiliated, otherwise they will never have the motivation to pull themselves out of poverty.

I had an argument with a big-L "Libertarian" acquaintance who straight up admitted that he would rather pay more in taxes to implement new stricter oversight and systems to restrict what people spend their WIC/SNAP benefits on than endure the possibility that someone might buy a bag of Doritos with said assistance. The cherry on top was him--again, a "Libertarian"--claiming it would be to ensure they are making healthy, state-approved, food choices.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I love libertarian ideas like let people do what they want, government should have minimal intervention in peoples' lives, stuff like that. But the libertarian party is full of the worst type of people and they will never be taken seriously for any major election.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Libertarian ideas about freedom from government intervention are taken to an extreme and wrapped up in the denial of funding social supports, because pooling resources for the overall benefit of society is evil or something.

Many countries establish personal rights in a way that still allow for freedom without the libertarian selfishness aspect.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

and most of them are just republicans that arnt "out loud"

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Libertarians want minimal government intervention only when it comes to services that THEY don't need. Libertarians have no philosophical restrictions on military spending that protects THEIR assets from foreign invaders.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol we (the US) haven't had "foreign invaders" since the War of 1812.

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(the US) haven’t had “foreign invaders” since the War of 1812.

False. Pearl Harbor was a foreign invasion. So are covert assassinations by foreign operatives.

False. Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941 and Pearl Harbor wasn't an invasion anyway. Wake Island would be a better example since it was actually invaded, but it was also a claimed territory and not a state. Assassinations are not "invasions".

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let people do what they want. Unless they're buying junk food with food stamps!

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Some junk food purchases became allowable only after the increased homeless population forced poor people to eat food that didn't require a stove or refrigerator.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that seems like the opposite of libeterianism, have the state decide what you can and cannot eat.

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

that seems like the opposite of libeterianism, have the state decide what you can and cannot eat.

All libertarians are frauds.

[–] Wubwub@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing that annoys me the most is that some countries having a percentage of people unemployed is literally a feature not a bug

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not all countries. Just the capitalist ones.

[–] Wubwub@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago