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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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One masked and heavily armed man even throws an object at the baby's head while haphazardly clearing the passenger seat during the raid at a Home Depot.

Armed paramilitary then drive off with child after detaining her father, a U.S. citizen accused of assault.

The toddler (also a US Citizen) has since been reunited with her family.

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[–] CubitOom 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We had multiple people just blaring their horns (assuming car horns)

This is a tactic used by concerned citizens to warn people in the area that paramilitary are abducting people. You may also often hear whistles.

Crying wolf from the sidelines doesn't help anyone at all!

You just said how the child was in fact in danger, so how would it be crying wolf?

Cross the barrier and kneel on front of the officers in order to make yourself a hindrance. ... Is this what passes as a counter-ICE protest these days? For shame.

Not everyone is ready or capable to resist in the same way. As a group, we have to provide resistance in any way we can and feel comfortable with. Sometimes that's only voting, sometimes it's documenting crimes, sometimes that's protesting, and sometimes it might even mean using force. It's important to let people resist oppression in their own ways because otherwise we will spend too much time infighting and strategizing instead of actually providing resistance. This is explored further in books like full spectrum resistance. Any resistance is welcome.

[–] o_O@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahhh, thanks for shedding light on the car horns. That makes a lot of sense.

My point about the guy yelling child endangerment is highlighted in this video. No one is acting on it. (Hopefully because the child isn't in active danger while the guy is yelling it)

If you were to shout child endangerment in most parts of the world people would be acting on it. I fear that if some even less scrupulous individuals decided to abduct in an area prolific in ICE activity no one would bat an eye at someone legitimately calling that a child is in danger :/

I may just be holding people to unrealistic standards for the most part.. I agree I'd rather people be doing ANYTHING to counter rather than simply ignoring it.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Have you seen the guns they're carrying? You can't help the kid if your brains are on the pavement.