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https://delta.chat/

https://delta.chat/en/help#e2ee

I gave it another try last week

It's still in development, it's not a fully fledged replacement for Matrix yet, but I could see it replace Signal at some point.

For a list of servers: https://chatmail.at/relays

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[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it's worth noting, that server knows who talks with whom and when. Everyone should evaluate if it fits with their threat model.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Indeed. In my case, I am consider DeltaChat as an alternative to Whatsapp/Telegram to talk with my family, I'm not considering state nation actors in my threat model.

The email address is also randomly generated (think 342rstxa12@server.tld), so that's a pro.

Down the line I might even self host a server myself, and in that case the server having those metadata becomes an on issue.

Self-hostability is good compared to Signal.

The smooth onboarding experience makes it easier to adopt than Matrix.

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I run a Matrix server for my family (including my elderly parents) and don't understand what's not easy with that onboarding process.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Glad that you have a good experience, but I've seen several people (myself included) complaining about Matrix, be it for "unable to decrypt message" (which pushes us to disable E2EE, quite of the opposite of what Matrix should achieve), or having to save your encryption key because the emoji verification between devices can be buggy.

I'm talking in a case where people all belong to different servers, it must be different if you self host the servers for your family

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Indeed I only offered up my experience since you mentioned self-hosting and family.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago

That makes sense. I think for me DeltaChat could be used both ways: both as a 'people I know' messenger, and both for 'Internet chat room'

Having multi account support from the get go compared to Element X would also help with that