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There is additional reporting from the Chicago Sun-Times and it's now unclear if a gun was fired or if ICE used a burner phone to call in a report of shots fired

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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s why you don’t attack foot soldiers, you attack logistics.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like an EMP deployed at ICE staging areas?

[–] Red_October@piefed.world 4 points 1 week ago

Like fart spray in the ICE locker room.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Attacking foot soldiers is fine, if planned well. The trick is getting away and not simply becoming martyrs. If the feds are knocking on your door 6 hours after your little escapade, and the knocker they're using is a 15 pound block of steel with 10 guys in full swat style body armor and mp5s... well, the 'resistance' isn't going to last long.

The biggest asset any resistance needs is support and the second biggest is invisibility. Americans actually have a portion of the invisibility, since it's in their backyard, so to speak. They can easily blend in with the general population. The massive amount of cameras and drones and license plate trackers and such are trying to remove that, but it's not complete at the moment. The support is where we can say a resistance has no chance right now. Imagine if you were in a city, knowing ice is operating in it, and you hear gunshots. A loud pounding is heard at your door a few minutes later, and you can see on your camera/through your window/out the peephole that it's a mangy looking dude with panic in his eyes. Are you going to open your door and let him in, then deny his presence as cops start swarming the area?

On the internet, all the tough guys will say yes. In reality, we know the answer is going to be much more... fluid.