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Nobody is immune to plane crashes, terrorist attacks, or fatal heart failure – not even Linus Torvalds, who still has the final say in the development of the kernel he named Linux. This worries many, as there is no public record of who or what would take over leadership in case of an emergency.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (5 children)

the fucking intrusiveness on that webpage is what's going give me heart failure jfc

[–] cm0002@ttrpg.network 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I updated the post with an archive link, sorry I always forget this website is like that because my ad blocking makes it appear clean to me

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago

Please don't. That means folks using hardened browsers can't load the page due to a captcha

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I literally couldn't break out of the cookie consent loop. I had to leave without being able to read the article. Nice site bruh, will never visit again...

[–] techt@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Firefox reader view worked well here. Whole thing copy/pasted below:

www.heise.de

Missing Link: How Linux would continue without Linus Torvalds

Thorsten Leemhuis

8 - 10 minutes


  1. Missing Link: How Linux would continue without Linus Torvalds

Nobody is immune to plane crashes, terrorist attacks, or fatal heart failure – not even Linus Torvalds, who still has the final say in the development of the kernel he named Linux. This worries many, as there is no public record of who or what would take over leadership in case of an emergency.

This repeatedly leads to speculation in forums and articles in major media; no wonder, as it is a typical "bike shedding" topic that everyone can have an opinion on. Much of this is, however, far-fetched, as hardly anyone outside developer circles knows about the succession plan. While it is not written down, it de facto exists.

Successor is ready

A developer, considered by Torvalds and the maintainers of the most important areas of the Linux kernel, takes over the leadership. This person also needs the backing, as anyone can take the current Linux code at any time and start a direct competitor.

Was fehlt: In der rapiden Technikwelt häufig die Zeit, die vielen News und Hintergründe neu zu sortieren. Am Wochenende wollen wir sie uns nehmen, die Seitenwege abseits des Aktuellen verfolgen, andere Blickwinkel probieren und Zwischentöne hörbar machen.

For the past quarter century, those familiar with the scene have always known who the designated successor is. At the turn of the millennium, it was Alan Cox; around the introduction of Linux 2.6 in 2004, it was Andrew Morton for a few years. For over a decade now, it has been Greg Kroah-Hartman.

Kroah-Hartman can take the reins at any time

This became fully clear in 2018 when Linus Torvalds took a break after tirades: Kroah-Hartman then took over development leadership for a few weeks. He still has access to Torvalds' Git repository with the main development branch of Linux, as the lead administrator of kernel.org recently mentioned to the author.

In any case, it has been Kroah-Hartman for some time now, not Torvalds, who usually signs the new versions of Linux distributed by Kernel.org. This includes new releases of the main development branch maintained by the Linux father, as he now only publishes them via the Git source code management system.

He usually does this on Sunday afternoons in Oregon, USA; they appear on Kernel.org often six to nine hours later on Monday mornings in Europe, after Kroah-Hartman, who lives in the Netherlands, has signed them. It is not known whether this happens before or after the first coffee.

Was fehlt: In der rapiden Technikwelt häufig die Zeit, die vielen News und Hintergründe neu zu sortieren. Am Wochenende wollen wir sie uns nehmen, die Seitenwege abseits des Aktuellen verfolgen, andere Blickwinkel probieren und Zwischentöne hörbar machen.

Different flight paths and working independently

Kroah-Hartman could therefore take over development at any time if something happened to Torvalds or if he stepped down. The former also once mentioned to the author that he and the Linux founder have not been on the same plane for years. Many would also welcome the fact that they now live on different continents and thus in different countries.

Similar to Morton before him, Kroah-Hartman, just like Linus Torvalds, receives an income as a "Fellow" at the Linux Foundation. This makes the two most important Linux developers largely independent: If they were employed by companies that contribute heavily to Linux, such as ARM, AMD, Alphabet/Google, Intel, Microsoft, Nvidia, or IBM/Red Hat, suspicions would quickly arise in contentious issues that they would influence kernel development in favor of their respective employer.

New development leadership, old problems

To whom the baton passes is, of course, enormously important. Even more important, however, is that the person enjoys the trust of the most important developers – above all, the maintainers of the kernel's most important subsystems. Because if they don't like the new leader at the top, they could start a fork of Linux at any time; such a thing would even be the probable outcome if the Linux Foundation or the Amazons, Googles, Metas, and IBMs of this world were to somehow seize control of Linux development.

Unlike other projects, such a fork could even start without an immediate name change: Torvalds has protected the term "Linux," but it has always been used for operating systems built with it and their kernels, even if the latter differ significantly from what is distributed via Kernel.org. This is particularly the case with Android or the distributions from Canonical/Ubuntu, Red Hat, or Suse.

Almost 25 years ago, a developer fork even began to compete with the original unintentionally: In the first year of the Linux 2.4 series, Alan Cox's "linux-ac" kernels were temporarily considered the better and more stable Linux kernels. Some distributions therefore use them by default; after fine-tuning for a larger and controversial course correction on Torvalds' side, the two strands then merged again.

Distribute responsibility across multiple shoulders

Like a new CEO, Torvalds' successor would naturally bring new ideas. For example, the person could bring in one or two developers and lead Linux development as a team. In the past five to ten years, some of the kernel's larger subsystems have already begun to distribute the load across two or three shoulders. Much can be speculated about this. What will actually happen will only become clear when someone else takes the helm. However, there is currently no indication that Torvalds will give it up anytime soon.

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This article was originally published in German. It was translated with technical assistance and editorially reviewed before publication.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've noticed sites are getting around Reader View by not loading all the content right off the bat. Just enough so you start to scroll so they can launch all the popups.
Means Reader mode only has a paragraph and a half to show.

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes putting it in reader mode then refreshing while still in reader mode will load all the content.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Ooh, I'll try that, thank you

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's when you hit em with that archive site.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then nothing loads because JavaScript is required by the fucking archive site

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

JavaScript is a normal requirement for modern web browsers?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox reader view worked well here.

I use Firefox, and while that is a good trick I have used and will surely use again, a lot of the time it's a matter of principle for me.

If I can't read the article in the normal way because they refuse to let me because I pick one of the choices they give me, then I will not partake in their content ever again.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just use a normal browser. One for text. One without JavaScript

The issue is client side

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol, Firefox isn't a "normal" browser?

Either way, sites can get around that. But do tell, which browser do you use? w3m, elinks, lynx? One of the other ones here?

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Kay. Well, you do you. 👍

[–] cm0002@ttrpg.network 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I updated the post with an archive link, sorry I always forget this website is like that because my ad blocking makes it appear clean to me

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Looks fine by me. Clicked the cookie link, done.

Funny thing, I spazzed out and clicked on my Putty link after accepting cookies. Putty pops over the website, for a split second I was like, "Oh what fresh hell is this?!"

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Clicked the cookie link, done.

You clicked Accept or Don't accept?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks so much!

I have μBlock Origin but that doesn't take away the cookie dialog covering the page. Do you have some extra setting in μBlock or some other ad blocker?

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if you have the "cookie notices" and "annoyances" filters disabled? They are not checked by default. It's under settings > filter lists. FWIW the page loaded cleanly for me.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah okay! No I have μBlock with untouched settings, so that's probably not enabled in that case. Thanks for the tip!

Now all that's left is to try and fix that artificial 5s delay on YouTube which is pretty freaking annoying and shitty by YouTube.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh man, I suspected that was artificial! 😡

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It should definitely not-even-kidding be completely illegal!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just turn off JavaScript. There literally is no cookie consent model

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I'm not looking for tips on this, I know how to circumvent these things if it's possible. It's a matter of principle.

[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Wtf I got a DRM permission popup

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago

Loads fine for me. I recommended disabling JavaScript, that's probably your issue

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Windows, Firefox, uBlock Origin, PiHole DNS, zero issues. Same in Edge.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

PiHole DNS

that's what I'm missing