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The detractors of this project portray it like it's a far-off pipe dream to be a drop-in replacement for GNUtils. Meanwhile, it's still a relatively young project that already has 85% compatibility. I think we can do it. Lol.
My only issue is the permissive license, but I'm still hope they do well :3
This is my take as well. I'm extremely disappointed they only went with a temporarily open license instead of a proper one, but using MIT is unfortunately to be expected from the Rust ecosystem for whatever reason...
temporarily open?
MIT is an extremely weak license when it comes to defending free/libre rights; e.g. it allows proprietary forks. i.e. companies stealing the code, making their own bullshit corpo product and not even releasing the source code back
I understand and share the dislike, but the openly released version will remain free, and no one can change it, so don't you think temporarily open is a bit misleading?
Same.
Same.
Still completely unhinged to ship it in your distro before it's fully compatible cough Ubuntu cough
Yep already broke a couple of things and we had to roll back.
Wrong. Have to start adoption somewhere, and doing it in a non-LTS release is a great move.
Last I checked Ubuntu was not an unstable mess of a rolling release, but a distro people rely on for stability.
Their normal non-LTS versions are still considered production ready and acting that rash has only solidified my negative opinion of them more...
If you're expecting stability for any Ubuntu release, that went out the window when Canonical started forcing Snaps.
But non-LTS Ubuntu releases have always been a testing ground for less-than-stable changes. uutils is just one of them, and the only way to make them stable is to see how they're being used in the wild.
I would expect the last 10% to take 90% of the work though. There are a lot of rough edges that just work weird. There is also a question of what is useful to get from that last 10%, or what should be done different despite being incompatible. (BSD utils are also an option to be compatible with instead)
Rust coreutils has 17,000 commits and is 12 years old.
Yeah, but it didn't get any serious development until 2021.
Check for yourself: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/graphs/contributors