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Part of the reason there is no hope is comments like these.
You aren't going to do that, so stop focusing on fictional power fantasies.
As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress? Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us? We all voted for Bernie in 2016. We're all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?
A progressive revolution by force isn't going to work if you don't have a progressive majority. If you're waging a civil war, it's a toss up who will win. But if you do have a majority, you can also just vote more progressives into power.
Either way, you're going to have to convince a lot of people to join your side. That's the first step: awareness, protests. And the recent election victories show that it's working. Keep building this so you win all the seats in the midterms.
These aren't fantasies. They're at least plausible.
Beliefs that any one person can save you are part of the problem.
Yeah, and you keep voting for progressive elements within the only party that is even possible to shift towards that element until you've taken them over. It takes a shit ton of time, is unfun, and wont get you anything near instant results, but its the cards you're dealt. You deal with them or don't.
Discouraging people from doing anything is the opposite of helpful though, and encouraging people is something you can do. That along with participating in more than just federal politics.
I still can't get used to being quote replied. It's weird. Feels like being dissected.
Anyways. History doesn't show substantial victory in voting. Voting keeps a citizen government moving policies around slowly. Unfortunately our current system is anything but by the people It's chaos, uncertain, and most definitely untenable to people. This is a government of blue corporates who want a president with decorum to make deals with the world, and red oligarchs who thrive on the chaos, privatization, and a rauntier economy. Unfortunately the past 10 years the oligarchs have won. No 4 year Biden presidency is going to fix what the country has become. Not a 2 term social democratic administration can fix this without absolutely dismantling what the country has become. And unfortunately that is going to be violent.
Aristotle wrote when the oligarchal system is created with the inequities we see now, the only two choices are tyranny or revolution.
Even in your comment you point out it won't be fixed in one term as if that's the expectation, but that's what I'm talking about here. It was never going to be 1, 2 or even 3 terms. Its a long, slow process.
When people don't see immediate rapid change and give up, instead waiting for it to get so bad, it gets even worse (fictional revolution thinking), this just makes the system as it is more entrenched. They'll happily keep you at bay.
I'm trying to tell you there's no slow process change out of this administration. Neither party cares for the people at large and neither will give up power without revolutionary thinking. Even if a Biden like presidency and administration runs for the next 12 years the American people will not be better off. And unfortunately the alternative that is needed for the people isn't one that has a foot in the door to even start the slow process rolling. Look at Mamdani. The backlash is heavy and he hasn't even started.
You better hope there is, because you certainly aren't going to be participating in any fast "you first" ones.
There is a slim chance that people who spend more time ensuring democrats don't get votes, bitching about them while complaining there is a solution, stopped doing that and democrats won in 2026 with sufficient margins to withstand all the bullshit levied at it.
This would of course involve things like prop 50 being in place (which passed), and thats all increasingly looking like hail mary too, all because yall wont accept anything except a perfect hail mary, which will never come.
My friend, you don't know me or my participation. The corporate democratic party is not the ally you wish it to be. I'll be voting blue while we are only presented this false dichotomy of a system, but only because it'll decay our system slower.
I know you arent participating in any type of revolution, so this bravado apathy building talk only hurts real people.
I know that your wanting to own the democrats is clouding your rational judgement about the only pragmatic way to turn the country around when you acknowledge that this is a 2 party system that is still currently in place and one you arent changing any time soon.
I think your idea that it will only decay the system slower is part of the problem. With enough enthusiasm and effort, it can change the course of the ship. The thing is, if you are doing campaigning for the other party, you arent helping that happen.
Well said. One last point, the fucks in charge right now are just itching for violence and are scratching as hard as they can to open a wound.
They don't need you to do anything to get the violence they want. You are in a place where masked goons are rounding up and disappearing people while your "opposition" party gives in at every opportunity.
And one last point, no where have the people above discouraged anyone from doing anything, just that what has been done has had little to no effect (true).