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IMO it's been Adobe really running the Mac vs Windows duopoly for over a decade at this point. If they made their software compatible with Linux people would have virtually no reason to continue using Windows.
Microsoft Office is also strong. It is still the standard in most contexts and they are just very good.
And while the libre alternatives are all excellent there is tiny points of friction, especially when collaborating with MS Office users and they make non MS Office users not want to switch.
No. All you have to do is say “we don’t accept files from product X. Please submit in one of the following formats/from the following products.”
I’m serious. This works. It’s worked for me for DECADES. If you want to do business with me, you’re doing it on my terms.
Unless you are an employee, student, petitioner or in one of a hundred other situations where you have to follow rules set by someone else.
I went through college without using Microsoft office. I was fine. As an employee, if they are paying for the systems and software I’ll use the company supplied stuff.
Most MS office application use can work through browser under linux now...
For my purposes, the only time I've had to dust off Windows native Office has been dealing with some of the more "weird" features of presentations that people ask me to work on that aren't handled in the browser version, and my general feedback is that those features are a bad idea in general and should be avoided.
I wager there's also some Excel things that might not work in the Web version, but I don't go that hard with Excel anyway.
In the corpo world, office integration with OneDrive and Teams is pretty nice too.
Unless half of your coworkers are on Mac then it's terrible and fails to sync all the time so they go behind your back and start using Google docs with their Gmail.
Yeah I agree there are weird inconsistencies between formulas in Excel, Libre office and Google Sheets. In Excel Concat and concatenate are the same while in google sheets Concat only works for two strings and concatenante is more than two. In Excel other sheet cells are references like Sheet2!A1 but in Libre Office it's Sheet2.A1 like why??
My understanding of the excel situation is management had one obnoxious engineer who said “why can’t it do X? Let’s make it do X!” And rather than plan out or coordinate the development of that function, they said “fuck Gavin is annoying. Let him run with this to shut him up.”
Years later, Gavin is no longer on the excel team, no one understands how his code works. No one is going to touch it. So it’s now a weird little thing that tethers people to excel. Not some fancy new thing. No, just a function Gavin put in 12 years ago nobody wants to deal with, because Gavin’s code is as obnoxious as Gavin himself.
This is my theory.
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Adobe is definitely like 60% the reason I'm still sticking to Windows... :/
Honestly until recently affinity was a huge threat to Adobe. We almost had a way out.
Did something happen with Affinity that knocked it out of the running?
Got bought by Canva last year and this year they switched to a freemium model. People fear that cramming AI more prominently, ads and predatory subscription models will follow.