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[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

just speculation.

only things valve employees said about prices is:

  • they are targetting a lower price for the frame than the index (index was 1000$ afaik)
  • the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)
  • prices will be announced closer to launch.
[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)

“Expect a high enough price such that we couldn’t group it in with console prices.”

[–] any1th3r3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Which is a bummer imo, since I don't think people already considering a lower midrange PC today are the target demographic, but I would love to be proven wrong.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2nd line means it won't be sold at a loss

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised anybody thought it could be.

Guys, it is literally just a small form factor PC (with a couple of console QoL additions like waking from controller support and HDMI CEC). It's an open platform.

If Valve sold it at a loss, offices and governments would buy them up and reimage them with Windows.

Sony and MS can only get away with making a loss because the closed platform guarantees they make money back on game sales.

Part of the reason the PS3 got more locked down after release is that governments, researchers, and companies openly talked about buying them and running custom software on it, because the hardware was so subsidised.

That said, this is a low end device for 2026, make no mistakes of that. If Valve want to, they can sell this for $500. Perhaps even lower if they're fine with razor thin margins.

Remember that this thing's price needs to be justifiable not only now, but also in 2 years or so when vastly more powerful consoles come out.

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why does everyone keep saying Index was $1000. That’s just blatantly wrong. It’s like $500. It was only the set that includes 2 controllers and 2 base stations that costs $1000. But you can order each part separately.
The Frame won’t have base stations, and it’s unlikely that the Frame controllers will cost $300, since they don’t seem as advanced as the Index controllers (at least in regards to the hand presence tech).
And since there are dozens of us that already have those I’d expect that you can buy the Frame w/o controllers too.

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because thats seemingly the upper bound l.

i'd expect something a bit more expensive than the quest 3, which currently costs 550€ with controllers, because i don't think valve will sell at cost, but with a slim margin.

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

It’s not the upper bound, because the set only includes 2 base stations. That’s good enough for most use cases but if you need the additional coverage you’ll be buying 2 more for $150 a pop

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

the machine will be priced as a pc and not as a console (whatever that means)

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