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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Housing first is just the most effective strategy. It doesn't solve everything, but it helps the most people fastest and is very cost effective

We have to fix a lot of things, but people focus on this because it's low hanging fruit

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Housing the homeless just gets them to stop sleeping on benches temporarily. It helps YOU from seeing the "unsightly hobos" in ur community. It does not solve the core issues that their having a hard time participating in our society, and is a band aid solution. Homeless people either have mental issues that need mended, drug issues that need mended, or have fallen on hard times but still need not only a home but a job to hold down that will pay for their housing and food. If it was as simple as putting homeless up in houses we would have eradicated this issue decades ago if nothing to keep the bourgeoisie from having to see the poors. Without the means to maintain and upkeep their homes they will just end up on the street again in no time.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't displace them - it gives them a safe place to sleep and store their stuff. It gives them a way to stay clean and fit in with society. It gives them safety at night. It gives them a mailing address

It gives them a way back into society. It gives them basic dignity as a human.

I'm not saying homeless people have no other problems, or that we don't desperately need better mental health services and social safely nets... But the biggest problem for them is indeed that they don't have a home!

It's not rocket science. Housing first is extremely effective in practice, for the recipients first and foremost

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes your right I suppose what I'm getting at is the whole give a man a fish saying. Yes for a lot of the homeless that step may be all they need I know homeless with jobs using other people they know addresses for work and bank accts and such but if you don't have anybody even that step can be insurmountable. Maslow's hierarchy and what not, shelter and food are pretty much ur most basic needs and anything more is useless without that. Add access to reasonable healthcare and perhaps homelessness could be solved.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're confusing cause and effect. Usually people use drugs and have mental health issues because they are homeless. They're not homeless because they have those maladies. Homeowners weather those challenges just fine. And living on the street creates drug and mental health issues. If I had to sleep on the sidewalk, I sure as hell would want to be high all day. Wouldn't you?

A homeless drug addict is just a middle class drug addict with a smaller bank account balance.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Owning a home or otherwise having stable housing doesn't mean you don't have or can't develop debilitating mental health or drug issues. I've worked with many currently and previously high-functioning, well paid, housed individuals who have developed severe mental health or drug problems despite their economic security. Economic security and stable housing absolutely are protective factors which reduce the risk of developing such problems, but they don't eliminate genetic factors, trauma, unexpected economic hardships, etc.

Source: I work with people who have severe mental illness and addiction problems, most of whom are currently homeless.