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    I don't quite understand the criticism. It's not gonna be top of the line, but it's more than enough to replace my dying laptop from 2015 that I pretty much only ever use like a desktop anyway. And I can save myself the time and effort of picking parts, building, and dealing with shit not working as expected.

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    [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    In all honesty, I think it might be overall better if games like Fortnite, CoD or Fifa never get patched for Linux. The vast majority of their players are just addicts who fell victim to the predatory mechanisms. One of the few effective solutions is to cut them off this stuff.

    Ideally, these games shouldn't exist, at least not in their current form. But it's not like billionaire sociopaths will stop feeding on the weak and poor anytime soon.

    [–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

    The vast majority of their players are just addicts who fell victim to the predatory mechanisms.

    I don't play Fortnite, but the only players I know are kids, and they just play it because that's what everyone else is playing and they want to play with their friends. I'm not excusing the company for monetizing the shit out of it, but (anecdotally) the players' behaviour just reminds me of me and my friends playing Dooms, UTs, or Quakes back in the day.

    [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Remember when Linux was about freedom? If the OS lets me delete root recursively, it can also let me play slop. It's not my mom.

    [–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

    Linux isn't stopping you from playing that slop, it's just to sloppy to work on Linux.

    [–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Let's not forget the whole Counter-Strike economy is based on gambling, which I think is also not good, especially because there's a lot of young kids picking that up and becoming gambling addicts, which I think is a net negative for people.

    Edit: People make games did a deep dive on this, as did Coffeezilla did a series on the whole ecosystem.

    [–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Oh wow I haven't played since the original Source. I thought you were just talking about how you had to manage an equipment budget in a match. But no, legit gambling scheme with real time and money for what amounts to NFTs that can only be used within Steam's ecosystem.

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

    Yeah, it's a bit of a black mark on valve however I imagine it prints a lot of money and they seem reticent to put an end to it.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    That's the only thing I worry about personally, not the users so much, but the capitalists who see "opportunity" once Linux gains a hold, and start figuring out how to make it disgusting like everything else they touch with their greedy little slop mitts.

    It won't be "Well, Linux doesn't permit anticheat", it will be

    "Okay how do we create some centralized power structure that makes invasive DRM and anticheat that runs on Linux?"

    And they'll move to colonize.

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    There are already anti cheat options on Linux. They just don't put any dev time into them because it's a small market currently.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 12 minutes ago

    EAC works fine enough, and it turns off when the game is off, and should uninstall with the game, so people don't hate it so much.

    But I dropped all interest in Helldivers 2 because of that crap, which sucks because it seemed like such a fun game. And I'm not touching anything Riot for the same reason. These "just trust us bro" always-on, deeply embedded rootkits are just unethical.

    That is too far even for taking school tests, it's indefensible and absolutely nonsense for a game.

    It's definitely something I can see both sides of though. It would suck to put a huge chunk of time and effort into a multiplayer game just to have cheaters ruin it for everyone on launch. Any game that isn't moderated or making effort to deter them gets overrun quickly.

    I don't understand the mentality that drives people to buy cheats just to feel better about themselves, but it's clearly there.

    TBH though...I don't remember stuff being this bad when private servers were more of a thing. Battlefield 2 / 2142 / 3 / 4 had ranked vs. unranked servers. The good private-run ones had mods to ban cheaters, the ranked ones had stricter enforcement. It seemed fine and we had fun...

    Maybe I'm missing something...

    [–] Funky_Beak@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

    Embrace, Expand, Extinguish.

    [–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

    While I don't like these games either, I think it would be better for them to support Linux, so all users can enjoy the games they want.

    they are not games they are slop that normies consume.