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[–] SendMeYourInk@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fair point but you could also ask why someone foreign wouldn't use a VPN to appear from inside the country.

I can think of a reason why you would want to hide your location even if you were in the US, the government in control now may not be in control forever and maybe the new gov will hold you accountable.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Hold you accountable for what? Nothing being done here is remotely illegal. I shill hard for my political beliefs and Warl0k3 isn't my real name, how is what they're doing (if they were really from the US) any different?

As for a foreign group using VPNs, why bother? This information hasn't ever been reported before, and any investigation into it is both unlikely under the current administration and has the resources to blow thru any cheap VPN you might be using for large scale commerical work like this. And even if that happens, nothing will happen to you. So why spend the money?

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't care to join in on the rest of this discussion but:

Hold you accountable for what? Nothing being done here is remotely illegal.

The definition of "illegal" could change in a future government. This is one of the strongest arguments for internet privacy in general: what is legal today may be "illegal" tomorrow or even "legal but the government doesn't care about the law"

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In a broad sense sure, and that's a great reason to use a VPN (especially if you listen to VPN ads on youtube)!

It really isn't a good reason in this example, though. At least, not as an explanation for setting your location to be outside of the US. Use of a VPN is identifiable (unless you set it up yourself, which isn't anonymous) so it will make no difference where you're located if the authoritarian government you're supporting gets replaced with an even more authoritarian one that decides to prosecute people being mean to them online, and it can only serve to incriminate you if the data ever gets leaked (like what happened here).

Generally this is true, but within the scope of this hypothetical it doesn't really change that this fundementally doesn't make sense.

[–] SendMeYourInk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For whatever they want, it's just an example of being paranoid and a reason to want to hide your location. Another being your work finding out you're being an asshole online and then being fired for it, etc.

For the foreign group, to seem more credible by appearing to be from the target country.

I'm not arguing that these counter-points I'm suggesting are strong, just that it's possible however unlikely they may be.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's also possible that this is all being orchestrated by the lizard cabal (prove me wrong, I dare you) but hopefully we can agree that our time is going to be much better spent discussing things that are actually likely instead of what the lizard pope might be planning next.

[–] SendMeYourInk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you think I'm a troll or not but that's why I genuinely asked the question, VPN usage today seems very common so it seems actually likely.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No the troll kingdom has been at war with the lizard cabal for centuries, I'm very careful to never confuse the two groups.

Seriously though I don't think you're trolling, I just think this question is kinda dumb. While there are reasons to use a VPN yes, you have yet to present a reason for why a huge number of legit US-based maga-influencer VPN users would want to set their location to something other than the US instead of just using a US node, which would be both faster and less suspicious.

It's just silly to think they'd be doing that, there legitimately isn't a reason to pay money to do a less convincing job (unless this is a false flag)

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it rises to the level of defamation or libel it's illegal. Like Candace and her claim that Macron's wife is trans.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And so is tweeting about a fire while in a crowded theater, but defamation/libel are famously hard to even show standing for, let alone prosecute. And they (oversimplifying) generally do not apply to speech critical of a public figure, which is why we can say things like "Stephen miller is a collective of sentient bugs stuffed into a skin suit made from stitched-together horse foreskins that's embezzling millions of dollars that he then spends on underage sheep and recreational bidets" without worrying about legal repercussions.