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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Granted my parents are poor and have no pension but no, I don't want their pension i didn't earn it.

If you meant having similar structure pensions as in defined benefit vs. defined contribution you're damn right but they're not fucking sustainable and that's why we are in such a mess. To make our parents or grandparents pensions sustainable requires a hell of a lot more investment in them and/or shareholder greed to fuck off and companies re-prioritize their wealth accordingly.

Both of those solutions are a big LOL.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

On your first point, I concede. I get it.

On your second point, I'm not completely certain what to make of what you are saying here:

If you meant having similar structure pensions as in defined benefit vs. defined contribution you’re damn right but they’re not fucking sustainable and that’s why we are in such a mess.

Could you explain what you mean?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 45 minutes ago

So the colea notes is in the old world DB was how it was setup. You paid company a set amt of money and they set you up with x dollars a month for the rest of your life.

Fine when boomers are a massive cohort propping it up via sheer volume alone with people dying younger.

We started living longer and surprise future cohorts are not massive like the boomers. That means the model of DB is not economically feasible. Around the world from left and right countries you are seeing this. Public pensions are being rewritten and people are rightly angry but you cannot sustain the model.

This is why the collective move to DC specifically when it comes to newer employees. What you get is tied to what you put in.