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Saturnalia creators Santa Ragione will "wind down operations" after Valve ban horror game Horses from Steam
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Has a lot to do with the size of the developer and popularity of the game.
Ironic how OP's avatar is taken from Deus Ex. One of the few games that lets you kill children. Most people don't try, but I'm pretty sure everyone still finds a creative way to kill Louis Pan (he's a boy in the Hong Kong map who goes around extorting businesses, and releasing rats when they won't pay. He works for one of the triads, and though you do quests for them, they do not care if you kill him, though I think they remark on it).
Worse, in Deus Ex all the children are male (due to resource limitation). In the sequel, all the children are female and you can still kill them. There's a whole school of them and you can basically do a school shooting. The game isn't meant for that, but you can totally do it. Sold on Steam. Both of them are. Frequently on sale.
One of my favourite game series. I'm not knocking it. But it does show that Valve is willing to relax the rules for some.
Oh yeah. In Fallout 3, you can straight up sell a 5 or 6 year old girl into sex slavery. And there's a reward for doing so (an item you can only obtain in this way). You have to follow a few unlikely steps to get it, but it's also not hard. There's a slaver faction, and they won't shoot you on sight. You want to get in there for a Bobblehead (permanent skill increase, in this case Barter, which helps your buy/sell prices and speech checks), so you enslave one person, or kill them. Another quest has one slaver target sniping you, and experienced players circle round and kill him first, so that gets you into Paradise Falls (the slaver settlement). If you complete all the slaver contracts (enslave three other people by making them put a bomb collar on their neck and give them marching orders), the slaver leader tells you he has a client with certain tastes, and he wants you to go find the youngest girl you can. There's a settlement (cave) full of children, and you must pass through to complete the game. There's one girl, Bumble, who is explicitly declared as the youngest, little more than a baby, barely able to fend for herself. And you can speech-check her to follow you outside to hand her over to the slavers. Slaver, it's actually just one. And, fun fact, a lot of veteran players do this, because there's a bug where you can "reverse pickpocket" weapons and armour onto NPCs to equip them better. Including kids. So what we do is, we take Bumble out, then we reverse pickpocket good armour and a flame thrower on her. These increase her internal/hidden confidence stat, so when the slaver threatens her, instead of running and getting caught, she attacks. And she wins. And then proudly walks back in her armour. It's funny.
A lot of older games had stuff like that in it, either references or outright stated. I've never heard of Valve going after them.
In Pathologic 1, there is a quest line where the player is given the option to kill a child. The player is encouraged to kill the child as looting gives the player much needed resources.
There's nothing in the game that implies it's sex slavery. That's coming from you.
Tell me you skip through the dialogue without reading it without telling me you skip through the dialogue.
Eulogy is the name of the slaver leader, IIRC. It's been ages since I've played it. So the guard out front gives you the four targets, tells you to get one and you can come in. I think the first four targets, even after the first one and you've gained access, are through this guard. I think Eulogy or whatever his name is just talks to you in his penthouse, which is where the aforementioned Bobblehead is. Once you're in, you can do a couple other quests. But once you've done the four slave acquisitions, the leader tells you about a discerning client who wants young females. He doesn't spell it out for you but you can pretty much guess.
Why would you think some rich bastard would hire slavers to acquire small girls? They aren't old enough to breed, and older children of either gender would be better suited to manual labor (or, you know, adults). Children require emotional and financial support. Why would he want a bunch of random small girls around? Do you actually have a theory or are you just defending pedophiles with FUD?
Small hands to put watches together. Work in the coal mines to squeeze into small spaces.
I don't need a theory. I'm taking the game at face value, not projecting my own purient interests onto it.
I haven't defended you
Easy block.
On Reddit you can treat people like that, there are millions more, but by going around projecting your perversions onto others, you'll quickly find yourself blocked by the more helpful people here. If this is you during the holidays, imagine how you are the rest of the year, but I'll leave that to others.
The slaver is a man, so assault is implied.
Do you think he wants the youngest female slave he can get for agriculture or construction work?
No, I said the opposite, didn't I?
Oh I interpreted an tone of sarcasm/indignance
That's in terms of games.
If you look at the content on Steam, there is lots of pro-russian genocidal imperialism messaging (even in charity DLC releases), Nazi stuff and annoying fake anti-woke posturing.
They don't do anything about it because of their alleged committment to "free speech". I find that unconvincing, they simply can't be bothered.